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Onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 25 mei 2017, 11:25

Bij mijn SEC blijf ik onverbrande benzinelucht ruiken als ik met mijn ramen open rij, maar ook als ik stil sta kun je het ruiken bij stationairloop.
Wat heb ik al gedaan: alle 8 injectoren vernieuwd incl. nieuwe rubbers, nieuwe bougies, nieuwe verdeelkap, nieuwe rotor, nieuwe luchtfilter, CO zit tussen de 0.5 en 1.0, kofferbakrubber ligt een nieuwe klaar, maar verklaart niet de onverbrande benzinelucht.
Ontsteking staat perfect, loopt 900 rpm stationair, in D-stand 700 RPM.
Leerlauf heeft een update gehad. Hij loopt en start prima!
Enige tips waar naar te kijken?

Bij voorbaat dank :dry:
Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
Andere MB'S gehad: 190E.190D,380SL,380SLC.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Harm1 » 25 mei 2017, 11:37

Ik ben geen expert maar heb wel hetzelfde gehad en bij mij bleek het de tankdop (ontluchting etc.) te zijn.
Bij een andere auto bleek het de retourpomp te zijn.
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Re:onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 25 mei 2017, 12:57

Kijk eens onder de auto, bij de brandstoleidingen, ook onder de klemmen.
In de motorruimte de aan en afvoerslangen, leidingen, koppelingen,evt, de EHA en de systeemdrukregelaar, maar die zul je al bekeken hebben.
Als de tankontluchting via een koolstoffilter gaat, zou die kunnen lekken, deze zit als ik me niet vergis, onder het linker voorscherm. Vroege uitvoeringen waren van metaal en kunnen door roesten lek raken.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 25 mei 2017, 13:19

Daar zal ik eens kijken thx. Zit trouwens ook een nieuwe brandstofpomp en accumulator onder.
Uitlaat is lekdicht, pas nog nagekeken en beter gemonteerd.
Slangen heb ik fysiek gecontroleerd, maar denk aan een rooktest, kan een vacuümlek deze lucht ook veroorzaken?
Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Douwe » 25 mei 2017, 13:25

Ik heb het zelfde probleem.
En je ruikt het alleen als e5 dak en ramen open staan.
Het komt vermoedelijk onder de motorkap weg.
Waar precies ben ik ook nog niet uit.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 25 mei 2017, 20:08

Als de tankontluchting via een koolstoffilter gaat, zou die kunnen lekken, deze zit als ik me niet vergis, onder het linker voorscherm. Vroege uitvoeringen waren van metaal en kunnen door roesten lek raken.[/quote]

Heb gekeken, maar kon niets vinden, hoe ziet die tankontluchting eruit?
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 25 mei 2017, 20:47

Dat koolstoffilter zit achter de PVC plaat binnen in je linker spatbord.
Je zal dat ding eerst moeten demonteren voor je het filter ziet.
Kijk toch nog maar eens naar je EHA, dat zwarte blokje opzij van de spinnenkop. Doe dit met gedemonteerd luchtfilterhuis, en met draaiende motor. Zo'n EHA kan spontaan beginnen lekken, als je je motor stillegt verdampt de gelekte benzine direct door de warmte van de motor.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Robby » 25 mei 2017, 21:11

Bij mij is de benzinelucht in de auto opgelost door de brandstofdrukregelaar te vervangen!
brandstofdrukregelaar.jpg
Je hebt geen permissies om de bijlage(n)) in dit bericht te zien.
Als je bang bent om fouten te maken, zul je nooit iets leren!!!
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Re:onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 25 mei 2017, 21:36

Bedankt voor de tips, morgen even kijken.
Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Gerko » 25 mei 2017, 21:51

De eha die frank noemt en de regelaar die robby noemt zijn dezelfde.
Ik ben niks nieuwsgierig, maar ik wil gewoon alles weten!
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Re:onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 25 mei 2017, 21:55

En die heeft auto van Renegade50 niet.
Optimum aut nihil.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 25 mei 2017, 23:01

Ben ik zo uitgekeken :-)
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 25 mei 2017, 23:07

Ah, het was mogelijk geweest in 1985.
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Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 26 mei 2017, 01:11

Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 26 mei 2017, 10:57

Ik heb er nog één. Ik stuur je een berichtje.
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Re:onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor turbopapa » 28 mei 2017, 08:52

Ton, je hebt toen brandstof pomp pakket vervangen ( wat je hierboven ook beschrijft )
Weet je zeker dat die aansluitingen allemaal lekvrij zijn.

Vraag me trouwens ook af of die van jou of van je broer er nu onder hangt.

Ook hebben we toen jouw spinnenkop uit elkaar gehaald.
Controleer die ook eens goed, liefst als de motor net gestart is.
Benzine verdampt nogal snel als de motor warm is.


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Re: Tips nodig van de experts!

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 28 mei 2017, 12:15

Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
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Re: Tips nodig van de experts!

Berichtdoor turbopapa » 28 mei 2017, 13:16

Je kan met een rooktest niet je hele systeem bereiken. De motor gaat niet aan dus zal niet alles open gestuurd worden.
Alleen je leiding gedeelte.
Daarna zal je wellicht de luchtweger van je MFI iets open moeten drukken.

Ruik je het echt alleen bij koude start of in bochten ( of erna ) ?


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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 28 mei 2017, 14:53

Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
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Re: onverbrande benzinelucht

Berichtdoor Renegade50 » 29 mei 2017, 03:28

Geen koolstoffilter gevonden? Wel gezien dat mijn overdrukslang aan de linkse kant gescheurd was, heb deze gelijk vervangen.
En ben toe aan nieuwe remmen voor zag ik. Ook nog 2 gaatjes gevonden in de kokerbalken, deze 1 dezer dagen even lassen.
Moet toch weer verder zoeken naar het problem.
Dit is mijn 3e SEC. Heb eerst een 500SEC gehad daarna een 380SEC en nu weer een 500SEC.
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