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W126Club.nl • klepstellen V8 : Techniek - 3
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Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 jul 2012, 11:52
door Vlieger
Douwe, hoe is het kleppen stellen verlopen?
Ben je er wijzer van geworden, zodat je het nu zelf kan doen?

Groet,
Rob

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 jul 2012, 21:24
door Douwe
ik heb er helaas momenteel de tijd niet voor en de financien niet
dus heb het even op een laag pitje staan helaas

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 jul 2012, 21:57
door ElGriffo
Zal eens met Ivar 560SNEL overleggen om evt. een Kleppenstel avond organiseren voor de M116/M117 motoren ?

evt. Volgende week donderdag avond te Zeist

Zorg ik dat er voldoende klepdekselpakkingen, KDP bout ringetjes, klepplaatjes, nokkenasklipjes e.d. op voorraad zijn

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 jul 2012, 22:00
door Peter 500SEC
Kun je meteen de Blue Thunder van Douwe als demo gebruiken ;)

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 jul 2012, 22:02
door Binsbergen
Zorg dan ook gelijk voor wat klepstoters
Dat is toch ook vaak een oorzaak...

Ik kom in ieder geval. Moet ook nog 1 of 2 klepstoters vervangen en gelijk de boel stellen

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 jul 2012, 22:08
door ElGriffo
Ik moet zelf ook wat stoters vervangen

Zal er dan voldoende op voorraad hebben ;)

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 06:34
door Douwe
dan probeer ik tijd te maken
het is een heele rit maar dat heb ik er wel voor over

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 07:00
door ElGriffo
Maak dan maar vast tijd :D ik denk dat het door gaat

Grt

Marco

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 17:23
door Vlieger
Ik doe graag mee, mogelijk kan ik een bijdrage leveren met tips, hoe de nodige drukplaat dikte te berekenen is i.p.v. uit proberen.
Mijn kleppen zijn zojuist succesvol gesteld.

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 17:35
door MB 500SE
Hoi,

Ik heb onlangs de klepspeling zelf gechekt en via het programma van wasibi uitgerekend wat voor nieuwe plaatjes ik moest hebben. bij mij zaten er orgineel in 4.75 en 5.10. Ik moest bij allemaal een maat dikker monteren.
Maar laat nou net de opvolger van de 5.10 genaamd 5.45 niet meer leverbaar zijn, de maat die daar na komt is 5.8
en die is eigenlijk weer te dik dan ga je te ver in de min en heb je de kans dat de klep niet meer hellemaal sluit met alle gevolgen van dien. Maar om een lang verhaal kort te houden het getik is er nog steeds, dus bij mij worden het ook verschilende nieuwe klepstoters (lifters).

Mijn vraag, jullie spreken over het vervangen van enkele lifters hoe bepalen julie welke lifters aan vervanging toe zijn?
Als ik het doe zoals het in het boek beschreven staat met een hamersteel indrukken en vervolgens kijken hoe snel hij zakt, kan ik bij mij niet echt slechte vinden.

Hier even wat foto's . Ik heb een form gemaakt waar ik de onderdelen tijdelijk in kon stalen, zodat alles ook weer op de goeie plek terug gezet kon worden.
En Marco waar kan jij de lifters voor leveren?18072012315.jpg18072012316.jpg
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vg W,Jager

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 18:23
door MuktaII
Hoi Marco,

Als je dit volgende week donderdag id gaat doen wil ik wel komen om te kijken hoe het werkt, want ik ga de dag erna op vakantie...
Hoor graag of het doorgaat! :mrgreen:

mvg, Mark

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 18:33
door ElGriffo
Het gaat door, maak morgen nieuw topic met alle info

Eerst toestemming van organisatie , anders krijgt ik weer ge.........

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 26 jul 2012, 19:49
door Vlieger
Wichard, een slim idee om de vorm te maken om de onderdelen in te zetten. :geek:
Verwisselen van de delen, moet namelijk voorkomen worden i.v.m. het slijtage patroon.

Bij het berekenen van de drukstuk dikte, met welke hefboom verhouding ben jij aan het rekenen geslagen?
Toch niet 2,3 hè zoals in de tabel van Wasibi, want dan zit je er een 0,2 mm naast met de dikte berekening. :oops:
Jij hebt de zelfde motor als ik.
Nameten van de hefboom komt de verhouding uit op 1,6.

Je had er drukplaatjes inzitten van 4,75 en 5,1 en je gaat er dikkere inzetten?
Als de klep in de klep-zitting inslijt, steekt de klepsteel hoger boven de cilinderkop uit.
Dus moet je er een dunner drukplaatje inzetten om de juiste voorspanning op de klep-stoter te houden.
Ook is het raadzaam na verwijderen van de hefboom, de hoogte van de klepstoter boven de kop te meten.
Die moet 31,5 zijn, maar kan wel eens 0,3 mm afwijken, zo kan je de juiste voorspanning berekenen.

Waarschijnlijk is dat de reden, dat de kleppen nog tikken.
Heb je na montage van de nieuwe drukstukken ook een laatste controle uitgevoerd?

Stuur mij anders even een PB met jouw berekeningen.

Groet,
Rob

Re: klepstellen V8

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 jan 2017, 13:26
door Eric
Het is een 420 van '88 en heeft hydraulische stellers. Het omreken verhaal staat in de link die je bij je reactie plaatste en komt van Vlieger: 'Bij het berekenen van de drukstuk dikte, met welke hefboom verhouding ben jij aan het rekenen geslagen? Toch niet 2,3 hè zoals in de tabel van Wasibi, want dan zit je er een 0,2 mm naast met de dikte berekening. :oops: Jij hebt de zelfde motor als ik. Nameten van de hefboom komt de verhouding uit op 1,6.'