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Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 mei 2013, 23:08
door Buurman
Ben mijn buitentemperatuursensor "even kwijt" .
Heb er nog wel 1-tje liggen van mijn Jeep Cherokee.

Deze heb ik als "niet-geschoold- electro-technicus" op mijn multimeter aangesloten, ingesteld op Ohm.
Bij een temp van 18.7 Celcius = waarde 13.3 Ohm
en bij 10.2 is dat 20.1 Ohm

Kan ik deze sensor ook gebruiken voor mijn 500SEL '85 ?
M.a.w. krijk ik op Benz-display juiste temp wergave met Jeep-sensor?
Het displaytje heb ik liggen en komt werkend uit vorige Benz.

Wil ook wel even "testopstellinkje maken maar weet niet hoe de sensor, de plus, en de min hier op aan te sluiten.
Het display heeft 4 pen-aansluitingen, genummerd 1 t/m 4
Neem aan 2 voor de sensor, en een plus en een min.

Bedankt weer........... :violin:

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 mei 2013, 23:19
door Leeflang
Die sensor gaat niet werken, voor meer informatie.

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 mei 2013, 23:22
door Buurman
Jammer, ik ga je link even checken............

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 mei 2013, 23:33
door Buurman
... ik ben aan het lezen en zie in dat ik vanavond niet het hele verhaal uit kan lezen.
Misschien morgen beter maar wat extra tijd stoppen in het zoeken naar mijn originele temp-sensor...... ;)

Ben ik wellicht wat sneller klaar als ik 'm vind, en je komt nog eens wat tegen in je garage ....

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2013, 09:47
door Wasibi
Ik heb onlangs een temperatuur sensor van een W124 Tempmatic gerepareerd, heer bleek geen NTC in te zitten maar een transistor.
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Misschien heb je er wat aan?

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2013, 11:02
door Mooster
Vond dit nog. Wellicht dat je er iets aan hebt. Heb em nu via mijn telefoon ge- upload. Heb je ook een pb gestuurd indien je het bestand per mail wil ontvangen.
Succes.

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2013, 11:06
door Buurman
Ziet er interessant uit,
Maar wat ik al zei electro-enzo, en zeker transistors is niet mijn ding.
Kan ik zo'n transistortje gewoon kopen, dan de 2 juiste pootjes samensolderen en vervolgens dan de twee draden op tempsensor aansluiten?
Of denk ik nu te makkelijk.... :whistle:

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2013, 18:54
door Wasibi
Yep zo simpel is het! ik heb die transistortjes bij Okaphone gekocht.
Nu is alleen de vraag of jouw sensor soortgelijk is opgebouwd?

Als het sensorbuisje van messing is kun je het topje met een hobbybrander los solderen en zie je de transistor zitten.

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2013, 19:27
door Leeflang
Ik heb het net even geprobeerd met zo'n BC109C, maar dat werkt niet voor een W126 meter.
Het display geeft een tijdje -38.0°C aan en gaat dan uit.
Andersom aansluiten van de transistor helpt ook niet.

Het ligt niet aan de meter waarmee ik getest heb, want met een 3k3 NTC geeft hij wel juiste waardes aan.

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 mei 2013, 19:34
door Buurman

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 mei 2013, 20:41
door Buurman
Update:

Heb de originele tempsensor gevonden, lag gewoon in de "nieuwe 500" in kofferbak......... logisch toch.
Dus alle electro-wizzards mijn dank voor alle tips en hoe er 1-tje zelf te maken wat ik niet echt zag zitten, maar niet meer nodig.

Ik denk dat ik op 4-polig aansluitstekkertje na dat achterop dispaly moet compleet ben.
Weet ook wat er op pin 1-2-3- en 4 moet dus kan binnenkort aan de "knutsel" .

Marco, jij had toch zo'n stekkertje nog los verkrijgbaar?

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 mei 2013, 20:54
door VolvWil
Goeie plek voor de sensor in de achterbak :blink:
Maar ja is ook net welke temperatuur je wilt meten.
Komt er gelijk bij me naar boven iets van stoelzitting :laugh:

succes weer

JW

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 mei 2013, 21:01
door ElGriffo
Stekker moet te leveren zijn, sowieso het kompleten kabelsetje voor het display m.b.t.
spanning en verlichting

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 mei 2013, 21:30
door Buurman
Marco, ik heb alles behalve 4-polig stekkertje.

Ik heb ergens gezien dat het los te bestellen was in een antwoord van jou op iemand ander's topic maar kan het niet meer terugvinden.

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 mei 2013, 21:41
door Leeflang
Plastic huisje: 0105457028
Metalen stekkerbusje: 0025449926 (4 stuks nodig)
Samen nieuw tussen 5 en 10 euro.

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 29 mei 2013, 22:07
door Buurman

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 30 mei 2013, 12:14
door Walllie
Het is idd een 3k3 ntc ii heb er ooit eens een van leeflang mogen ontvangen en zit inmiddels gemonteerd
En werkt weer prima gewoon opnieuw solderen en duisje ff vullen met koelpaste en dicht knijpen
En krimpkous over het dicht geknepen stuk en alles werkte weer prima

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 30 mei 2013, 16:16
door Buurman

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 31 mei 2013, 14:03
door Buurman
Ga aan de gang met de bedrading, op zich duidelijk
Pin:
Pen 1: +12V (via zekering 7 in serie 2, of zekering 12 in serie 1)
Pen 2: massa enbruine draad sensor
Pen 3: de andere draad (groen bij mij) van de sensor
Pen 4: instrumenten verlichting op 58D

A- Als ik pin 4 niet aansluit dan heb ik dus geen verlichting
B- Als ik 'm op andere 12V. aansluit heb ik wel verlichting.
( even op werkbank aan de accu gehangen incl. sensor alles werkt)
C- Wil ik 'm mee laten dimmen met rest dashboard en cockpit verlichting dan moet ie op 58D

Vraag 1 = "Moet pen 4 op 58 D omdat display anders niet meedimt met de rest?

En las in een topic waar Leeflang het e.e.a. uitlegt over een andere onderwep dat van de grote ronde 9-polige stekker nr 8 de uitgang is van de dimmer die ook naar nr 8 van de rechthoekige 8-polige stekker achter op de tellerunit zit.

Vraag2 = "[u] Is het mogelijk om hier de pen 4 van temp-unit op aan te sluiten, stuk makkelijker..


Connector 58D:

Re: Buiten temperatuur sensor waardes

BerichtGeplaatst: 31 mei 2013, 14:41
door Leeflang
1. 58D is inderdaad de aansluiting voor lampjes die gedimd kunnen worden.
2. Ja hoor, kan ook, die zitten ook aan dat aansluitpunt (pin 8 van de ronde stekker rechtstreeks, pin 8 van de rechthoekige via pin 8 van de ronde).