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Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 00:31
door w126560td
Ik ben vandaag met ruim 30km/h een stoep opgereden. Daarbij zijn paar onderdelen krom geslagen.

Zie foto:

Nummer: 92 Krom
Nummer: 77 Rubber kapot en staat beetje scheef
Nummer: 120 Rubber kapot
Nummer: 146 Rubber kapot

Nu is mijn vraag is er verschil bij deze onderdelen tussen type 1 en type 2.

Bij onderdeel 77 op de foto is de rubber gescheurd en deze onderdeel staat beetje uit zijn positie. Kan dit komen omdat onderdeel 92 flink krom is geslagen waardoor onderdeel 77 uit zijn positie staat. Als dit het geval is zijn de rubbers van onderdeel 77 los te vervangen want ik denk niet dat deze onderdeel krom is. Zie ook foto's van het ongeval.

MVG

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 00:35
door w126560td
Weet iemand de onderdeel nummers van deze onderdelen...?

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 01:50
door w126560td
Ik heb deze onderdeel gevonden voor onderdeel 77 reparatie kit voor onderste draag arm. Graag jullie reactie of deze onderdeel krom kan slaan aangezien het materiaal (gegoten ijzer ofsow).

Nummer 6 op tekening

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 01:56
door w126560td
Fotos ongeval onderkant..

Onderste draagarm
Rem reactiestang

Graag reactie's of mijn draag arm krom kan zijn met het oog niks waar te nemen behalve dat de rubbers kapot is en beetje uit positie ligt.

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 07:41
door 126
Als ik het goed heb is 92 de stuurstang.
Die is voor alle types hetzelfde.

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 10:40
door Gerko
Bedenk wel dat bij een fors verlaagde auto de rubbers ook al anders staan, dus vergelijk links en rechts eens. Krom slaan kan altijd. Kun je geen afdrukken zien van bijv de stoeprand?
Geen kromme velg en of kapotte band? iig balen joh. Hoop dat het mee valt.

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 10:44
door Gerko
Als ik de stand van jouw rubber zo bekijk check dan vooral ook nummer 92 of op tekening 2 nummer 7

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 12:51
door w126560td
Nummer 92 is helemaal krom maar dit is geen stuurstang. Dit is de stang die van mijn subframe naar mijn onderste draagarm loopt. Alleen aangezien de stand van onderdeel 77 denken jullie dat deze krom is de rubber is wel kapot maar aangezien de dikte van deze onderdeel en materiAal ben ik van mening dat 77 intakt is alleen nieuwe rubbers denk ik. Velg is niet merkwaardig krom en band is intact.

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 14:11
door Gerko
Dat is je reactie arm en als die krom is dan gaat je draagarm scheef staan. Goed mogelijk dat je draagarm nog heel is. Op afstand niet in te schatten en zelfs onder de auto moeilijk te zien. Weet je pas als de uitlijning klopt of als je er 2 naast elkaar legt. Als draagarm niet teveel kost zeg ik gelijk mee vervangen. Als je het gokt heb je kans dat het goed gaat, zo niet kan het weer los en nogmaals uitlijnen. Het is maar waar je voor kiest. Misschien kun je met leverancier overleggen dat draagarm erbij doet en als jouwe nog goed is dat ie dan retour mag?

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 14:39
door w126560td
Ik kan geen nieuwe draag arm vinden in turkije. Ook die reactiestang kan ik niet nieuw vinden. Uitlijnen kost 30 tl dat is 8 euro ofsow.

Heest iemand een artikel nunner van die reactie stang

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 15:38
door Leeflang
1233302130

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 02 jan 2017, 19:03
door Mooster
Als uitlijnen maar €8 kost kun je dit altijd laten doen ter controle lijkt me.
Zou bij zo'n klap goed controleren of laten controleren wat de staat is van alles. Op dit forum staan ergens de meetgegevens van Mercedes die gehanteerd moeten worden om schade vast te stellen aan een W126.
Ik heb deze pdf al eens ergens ge-post maar weet niet meer waar en heb em zo niet voorhanden.
Succes.

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 16:19
door w126560td
Kan iemand mij vertellen hoe ik mijn rubbers van mijn onderste draag arm moet vervangen Ik heb mijn draag arm al los allee krijg de rubber er niet uit op tekening 149

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 21:48
door Leeflang
Felsrand er af boren en dan er uit wrikken met een staaf.

Bij het monteren moet de nieuwe dus ook weer gefelst worden.
Bij Mercedes hebben ze daar speciaal gereedschap voor (W123589013500).

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 22:15
door w126560td
Leeflang bedankt voor je reactie maar ik weet totaal niet waar die felsrand zou moeten zitten...?

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 22:40
door Leeflang
Ik had iets verder moeten lezen in het WIS, dat geldt voor het 2-delige lager.
2delig.jpg
Bij het nieuwere 3-delige lager wordt een van de rubbers weggeboord tot het middelste van de 3 delen te zien is, dan dat middelste stuk samen met het rubber aan de andere kant er uit persen (pers 000589883300 en in- en uitbouw gereedschap 126589014300) en tenslotte het deels weggeboorde rubber er uit tikken.
3delig.jpg

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 23:16
door w126560td
Ik zie reparatie setjes met 3 componenten en met 5. Wat ik bestelt heb heeft als het goed is 3 componenten. Waarom is hier verschil in.

Nu is mij nog steeds niet echt duidelijk hoe ik 1 rubber moet uitboren. Aan de buiten zijde van mijn rubber zit een metaal plaatje ook eentje aan de binnen zijde. Als ik door het gaatje kijk dat is alles evenredig recht en rond. Ik kan via de binnenkant niet opmaken eerste rubber tweede rubber.

Is de bedoeling om al het rubber en ijzeren platen te verwijderen (niet meer nodig MAG KAPOT FLEX GERBUIKEN :D) ???

Heb ik wel de juiste onderdelen bestelt met 3 componenten of moet ik nu bepaalde onderdelen hergebruiken ??

Zie graag foto's

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 23:43
door w126560td
Nu moet ik Engels leren ook nog :D :D

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 jan 2017, 23:59
door Leeflang
Bij demontage:
persen.jpg
Dwarsdoorsnedes van de twee verschillende uitvoeringen:
doorsnedes.gif
Boven de oudere, met 2 rubberen delen (roze) en een buis (groen).
Onder de nieuwere, met 3 (deels) rubberen delen; 2 dezelfde (roze) en in het midden eentje met de buis (groen).
Blauw is de draagarm.

Re: Ongeval gehad onderstel krom

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 jan 2017, 00:14
door w126560td
Bedankt voor je duidelijke reactie Leeflang.