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Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 10:32
door Tyn1000
Goedemorgen,

Ik heb vorige week een 380sl USA uit 1982 gekocht.

Gisteren besloten, samen met een bevriende garagehouder, alles even aan te pakken.
Alles als in: bougies, kabels, filters, vloeistoffen, etc. Twee motorsteunen zien er vreemd uit, opgevuld met een grote moer, dus ook nieuwe steunen bestellen.

Maar nu heb ik het motornummer gevonden (boven het vliegwiel afgelezen langs het schutbord bestuurderskant).
Het nummer is: 116 965 12032132

Als ik dat google, kom ik op een 420 uit. Klopt dat?
Hoe kan ik dan het beste uitzoeken of de injectie, automaat, etc geschikt is?
Ik lees ook dat er meerdere varianten 420 zijn, welke heb ik?

Ik heb deze vraag ook op Mercedesforum geplaats, maar ik denk dat ik hier de specialisten tref.
Mocht het geen probleem zijn (omdat het een 107 is), zal ik mij waarschijnlijk wel vaker hier melden.

Alvast bedankt!

Gr..
Martijn.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 10:36
door Bram Jansen
Welkom, en nee natuurlijk is dat geen probleem. :handgestures-thumbup: veel wijsheid gewenst

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 12:32
door Douwe
Een 420 of 380 hebben het zelfde onderblok
DAT ze de motor steunen hebben opgevuld dan hebben ze het Carter van het orginele blok niet over gezet

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 13:39
door Tyn1000
Bedankt voor jullie reacties.
Motorsteunen aanpassen lukt me wel.
Ik zit er nu alleen mee dat ik niet weet wat 420 is en wat 380 is. (injectie, ontsteking etc.)
Warm loopt ie naar mijn idee goed, goed niet. Hij start direct, maar smoort bij een beetje gas geven.
Warm draaien doe ik met heel voorzichtig gas geven, en dan nog slaat ie wel een paar keer af.
Vandaar ook een beurt, vacuüm controleren want ik kom wat losse dingetjes tegen.
Ik heb net gelijk een werkplaatshandboek voor een 420 besteld, kijken of ik daar wijzer van word.

Het nummer van de automaat heb ik nog niet kunnen vinden.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 14:05
door Leeflang
Als aan de luchtmassameter een EHS (rode rondje) en potentiometer (groene rondje) zitten, is die van een 420.
Bij een 380 zijn die er niet (onderste foto).
lmm.jpg
Ziet de ontstekingsmodule er uit zoals op de linker foto, dan is die van een 380.
Lijkt hij meer op de rechter, dan is die van een 420.
zsg.jpg

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 14:17
door Vlim
Maar dat alles is te modificeren naar een serie 1. Je kunt dus een volledige serie 1 opbouw hebben op een serie 2 blok. Werkt prima verder.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 14:33
door Douwe
Grote kans dat je verschrikkelijke vacuüm lekkages hebt.
Waardoor hij van co af is.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 14:34
door Leeflang

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 15:00
door Vlim
Als er een 420 in hoort, had het geen 380SL geheten toch?

Aangezien de 380 niet het beste is wat ze gebouwd hebben, zou het me niet verbazen als er ergens in de tijd een andere motor in gekomen is.

Maar inderdaad, wagenkaart checken is het handigst.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 15:30
door Tyn1000
Wat veel reacties al! Mijn dank is groot.

Ik ga vanavond de luchtweger en ontsteking vergelijken.
Op het VIN nr, ( bedankt voor de link) komt ie er als 380 SL USA uit.

Dat van de eerste en tweede serie begrijp niet helemaal:
Maakt het niet uit, 380 onderdelen op een 420?

Gr..
Martijn.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 apr 2017, 15:52
door Vlim
Hoi,

Sorry, bij de W126 hebben we het vaak over serie 1 (tot en met 11985) en serie 2 (vanaf 1985).
Bij de R107 is die onderverdeling wat anders.

De eerste R107's hadden de V8 met D-jetronic, De 350.
Daarna kregen ze de V8 met K-jetronic (nog steeds 350).
Toen kwam de gemoderniseerde M116 met K-jetronic (380),
en als laatste de M116 met KE-Jetronic (de 420).

De 380 en 420 zijn grotendeels gelijk, de grootste verschillen zitten in het injectiesysteem en de ontsteking, maar het blok is hetzelfde gebleven (qua basisconstructie).

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 apr 2017, 07:05
door Gerko
Het koud smoren kan vanalles zijn. Van ingebrande rotor&verdeelkap tot te weinig brandstofdruk (soms te verhelpen door eha valve bij te stellen)

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 apr 2017, 17:55
door Tyn1000
[quote="Gerko"][/quote]

Ik ga uit van vacuüm, als ik het slangetje bij de verdeelkap lostrek, gebeurt er niets.

Re: Motor nummer 116 965 12032132

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 apr 2017, 10:22
door Tyn1000
Via pb en mail heb ik wat hulp van jullie aangeboden gekregen, bedankt.
Maar ik wilde toch niet door met deze auto. Ik heb 'm ingeruild op een 450sl.