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W126Club.nl • Climate Control problemen : Techniek - 3
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Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 mei 2017, 23:27
door Prutser

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 27 mei 2017, 23:29
door Bram Jansen
Heb je geen datacard van die wagen.
Als je mij je VIN nummer stuurt kan ik mogelijk zien hoe dat zit met die data, misschien ook niet maar wil wel voor je kijken.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 00:04
door RD500SEC
@prutser

Hij is getest in Robby's auto, een 126 inderdaad

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 00:28
door RD500SEC

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 00:39
door Leeflang
Google images vindt bij 25 de draaiknoppen versie met 2 temperatuurwieltjes, dat zou dan zeker niet de juiste zijn.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 00:44
door RD500SEC
Slip of the pen waarschijnlijk :grin:

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 11:35
door Prutser

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 11:39
door Robby
Dat is geen probleem,Deze units zijn volgens mij gewoon uitwisselbaar zolang de stekkers passen. In de jaren dat ik deze reparaties doe, is dit nooit een probleem geweest. De functionaliteit blijft hetzelfde!

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 11:47
door Prutser
Dus de units van de W126 en de W124 zijn dus onderling uitwisselbaar?, en past dat ook dan ?want uiterlijk zit er wel verschil in.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 11:53
door Robby
Het gaat om soortgelijke unit!

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 11:57
door Prutser
En die van de W124 zien er zo uit, maar dat past dus?

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 12:01
door Robby
Het verschil is alleen de kunststof bevestiging, buitenkant, dat is niet uitwisselbaar.
Ik snap die tape niet voor die lampjes!

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 12:08
door Prutser
Origineel zitten er alu stikkers op, om de verlichting terug te kaatsen op de knopjes.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 12:20
door RNRS001
Het enige uiterlijke verschil is volgens mij dat de knop voor automatisch anders is, de rest is hetzelfde.

De stickertjes op de lampjes zijn er inderdaad voor om het licht terug te sturen. Als je die stickers er niet op hebt zitten zijn je knoppen veel minder sterk verlicht omdat dan het licht "ontsnapt" aan de voorkant. Je haalt oorspronkelijk alleen de stickertjes eraf als er een lampje kapot is, wat dan vervolgens een zalig werk is om ze eruit te halen. :P

Zoals je op de foto's kunt zien die net geplaatst zijn, zijn er dus ook verschillen aan de buitenkant. Zie de stickers, die zijn ook telkens anders.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 12:27
door Robby
En ik heb die stickers er altijd vrolijk afgehaald! :lol: :lol:

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 12:47
door Bram Jansen
Er is een verschil tussen de units van ruim 300 euro, ik kan mij nauwelijks voorstellen dat er maar een beetje verschil tussen die twee zit.
Ik heb een zelfde unit, ook in een 124, die gaat er binnenkort uit omdat het hele dashboard eruitgaat. Het terugkaatsen van licht gaat bij mijn unit met plexiglas.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 13:09
door RNRS001
Ik heb je er net een PB over gestuurd. :)

Jij hebt een PDF gestuurd, ik heb hier een deel van bijgevoegd in deze post. Ik zie ook het prijsverschil van 300 Euro. Die van Bosch is 300, die van Kemmerer is 600 Euro. Die van Bosch met onderdeelnummer 24 85 is volgens het overzicht bij auto's met een chassisnummer boven A 575206 geleverd. Mijn auto heeft echter een chassisnummer er onder, wat zou betekenen dat 23 85, ook van Bosch, origineel in mijn auto zat.

Maar ja, er is nog een merk. Kemmerer. De auto kan, volgens jouw PDF, ook met een unit van Kemmerer (nr 21 85) geleverd zijn. Vanaf chassisnummer 575206 is dit 22 85 geworden. En dan staat er bij als optie dat het ook 24 85 zou kunnen zijn.

Er staat ook bij dat een onderdeel "vervangen" is. Wat betekent dit?

Echter.

Als ik op de mb-teilekatalog website snuffel, staat daar dat auto's vanaf september 1989 ofwel met onderdeel 22 85 of 24 85 werden geleverd. 23 85 is volgens de teilekatalog alleen geleverd aan auto's van voor september 1989. Dit zou dus betekenen dat ik een unit met onderdeelnummer 22 85 of 24 85 moet hebben.

Dus... Wie heeft er gelijk?

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 13:47
door Robby
Ik heb voor het gemak even 2 units open gemaakt dat er intern ook nog wel een verschil is.
Een type heeft 2 printplaten en de ander heeft er 1. Functionaliteit is identiek.
Misschien verklaart dat het prijsverschil!!

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 14:28
door Bram Jansen
2185 is vervangen voor 2285 en 2385 voor 2485.

Gisteravond laat heb ik je een uitdraai gestuurd van modellen na sept.89
Vanmorgen heb ik je een keer een uitdraai gestuurd van modellen vóór sept 89
Kijk eens of er nog een verschil te bespeuren is in die van gisteravond en vanmorgen.

Bij 56. A124 830 24 85 staat Ab Ident-nr A575206 dat 2285 optioneel is.
Op je wagenkaart staan de meegeleverde opties.

Persoonlijk zou ik denken dat origineel op jouw wagen een Bosch geleverd is. Een 2485 dus.

Re: Climate Control problemen

BerichtGeplaatst: 28 mei 2017, 14:51
door RD500SEC
Als er staat vervangen door, wil dat zeggen dat het onderdeel niet langer meer wordt ingebouwd en vervangen is door een meestal verbeterde versie. Hier is aangegeven met chassisnummers en data, welke periode en welke auto's onder de verbetering vallen.
Het nieuwe onderdeel vervangt het oude, maar beiden zullen werken.
Er is een periode geweest dat er 4 units zijn ingebouwd, alle 4 zijn uitwisselbaar. De oude voorraad is opgemaakt, dus het " probleem" met de oude units was niet dusdanig dat ze niet meer ingebouwd werden, want ook dat komt voor.
Het nieuwe nummer zou mijn voorkeur heben, dat wel.