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Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 21 apr 2018, 18:37
door CunningCobra12
Vandaag wilde ik kleppen stellen en heb hiervoor instructies van de WIS en van internet gehaald.
Nu zag ik een aantal tegenstrijdige dingen, die een aantal vragen bij mij opriepen. Voordat ik er aan begin, zou ik toch graag een aantal vragen beantwoord hebben. Ik hoor het graag en alle tips zijn welkom!

1. Is het voldoende om de groene kabel te verwijderen van de ontstekingsmodule, of moet ik ook de brandstofpomp uitschakelen (i.v.m. draaien nokkenas)? Zo ja, hoe?
2. WIS schrijft een klepspeling van 0,10mm inlaat en 0,25mm uitlaat bij koude motor. Is dit correct? Las op Mercedesforum namelijk 0,20mm voor de uitlaatklep. Denk dan dat het veiliger is om van de gegevens van de WIS uit te gaan.
3. Moeten de clipjes/veertjes die de sleper op zijn plek houdt, worden verwijderd om te kunnen meten en stellen? In de volgende video van Kent Bergsma zegt hij van wel, in de WIS staat hier niks over geschreven. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MXHOCtKNuY
4. Moet de nok van de nokkenas helemaal recht naar boven wijzen, of mag deze ook iets schuin zijn als de nok maar naar boven wijst?

Voor mij de eerste keer dat ik dit doe, dus excuses voor eventuele domme vragen.
Alvast bedankt! :handgestures-thumbup:

Groet,
Dominic

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 02:29
door Jean Pierre
Benzhans2 volgen = zeker juist

Gewoon goed kijken of de nok inlijn met de klep omhoog staat.

Alleen bij Gas rijden zoals bij mijn 280SE 1982
Inlaat:15
Uitlaat:25

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 02:34
door Jean Pierre
Hier nog een hulpje;
Gewoon kijken welke open gaat(nok omhoog) na stellen aankruisen, ben je in 1 draai klaar

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 08:40
door Coupe280
Ik rij al 20jaar met 280 op LPG en heb eigenlijk nog nooit inlaatkleppen hoeven stellen
Wel controleren
Uitlaat kleppen wel altijd stellen,als ze uitgesteld zijn kan je nog eventeel andere drukplaatjes gebruiken
Die zijn standaard 4,5 mm maar zijn er ook van 3,5 en 2,5 mm
Zo kan je Koprevisie nog lang uitstellen
Mvrg Tonnie

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 09:12
door Weizengelb
Hoi Dominic,

Je kan de motor ook met de hand draaien, dan kan je de ontsteking uit laten staan. Let op, motor alleen linksom draaien!
Niet draaien door een sleutel op de nokkenas te zetten, alleen draaien via de krukas(poeli).

Als je de klepspeling regelmatig kontroleert kun je de fabriekswaardes aanhouden. Op gas en om het interval te verlengen kun je ruimer stellen. De M110 motor is wel bekend om zijn luide kleppensturing, met ruimere speling zal dit lawaai eerder toenemen.

Veel succes!
Math

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 23:38
door CunningCobra12
Hartelijk dank allemaal voor de tips! :handgestures-thumbup: Ik heb de inlaatkleppen op 0,10mm gezet en de uitlaat op 0,20mm, zoals aangegeven. Ging met de speciale sleutel van Mercedes aardig makkelijk om ze op de juiste waarde te krijgen. De kleppen stonden allemaal te ruim, zelfs de uitlaatkleppen. De enige klep die te strak stond was nr.6 van de uitlaatkleppen. Deze stond op 0,15mm. Ik denk dat ze al lang niet meer zijn afgesteld aan de spreiding te zien (zie tabel met waardes voor het afstellen). De motor heb ik gewoon gedraaid door heel kort te klikken met de sleutel (groene ontstekingskabel en bougiekabels los natuurlijk). Leuk en leerzaam klusje om zelf te doen. Mooi ook om te zien dat de nokkenassen en de binnenkant er nog nagenoeg nieuw uitzagen. Ketting zat ook lekker strak, dus geen zaken om me druk over te maken gelukkig. :grin: Nog even een vraag, wanneer is het verstandig ze weer te controleren/te stellen? Om de 10.000km?

Klepspeling voor het stellen:
Klep Uitlaat Inlaat
6 0,15 0,15
5 0,28 0,18
4 0,23 0,23
3 0,27 0,20
2 0,20 0,21
1 0,23 0,13

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 22 apr 2018, 23:50
door Leeflang
Bij Mercedes staat het op de 20.000 km lijst.

Re: Kleppen stellen 280SE

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 apr 2018, 21:08
door CunningCobra12
Top! Dank voor de info. Ik heb ook nog een nieuwe complete kleppendekselpakking (inclusief de 5 pakkingen) gemonteerd, dus hij kan er dan weer even tegenaan! :handgestures-thumbup: