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W126Club.nl • automaatbak : Techniek - 3
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Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 jun 2012, 10:48
door JoepJoep
Wow. Zo werkt dat dus .. Cool!

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 jun 2012, 11:11
door ElGriffo
in koelvloeistof zit glycol en daar kan de voering matariaal niet tegen , het lost er van op.

in de koppelomvormers van de latere types zit een lock up (KUB oft. overbruggingskoppeling) en daat zit ook
een koppelingsplaatje in . zoals gezegd heeft de W126 die niet

het kan namelijk zijn dat tijdens het afkoelen er koelvloeistof bij de bakolie komt

vaak kwam dit bij de W211 en de opel vectra voor

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 jun 2012, 11:26
door Buurman
Okee, dacht dat er alleen ATF door de koelerradiateur liep, die dan gekoeld word door rijwind en fan.
Dus daar loopt ook koelvloeistof doorheen?

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 jun 2012, 11:45
door ElGriffo
Bij de 280 M110 motor is hij wellicht los van de koelradiateur dan is het niet van toepassing.

Bij de 8 cilinders zit hij opgenomen in de radiateur (2 aansluitingen onder aan de bak )

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 17 jun 2012, 12:42
door Buurman
Yeap, ja normaal gesproken loop ik even naar buiten om te kijken hoe het zit.
Maar mijn toekomstige 380SE staat nog aan de andere kant van de afsluitdijk in Sexbieurum met een lekkende automaat

Ben nu als het goed is W126 manual aan het downloaden, kan ik het mooi allemaal op de PC bekijken.

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 03 nov 2020, 22:42
door ll-cool-gj
Ik heb dezelfde problemen na het vervangen van de primaire pomp. Koppelomvormer zat diep genoeg in de automaat bak. Automaatbak teruggeplaatst, alles aangesloten, gevuld met 4 liter automaat olie. Bij starten hoor je echter klak, alsof de bak weerstand geeft. In p en n proberen te starten: klak! Motor aan de krukas getornd; gaat rond. Is dit dan mogelijk toch te wijten aan dat de koppelomvormer niet goed zit?

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 nov 2020, 20:02
door hans000
Als ik het zo lees, heb jij hetzelfde probleem.

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 nov 2020, 21:54
door ll-cool-gj
Klopt, maar ik ben benieuwd wat de clou was of ik heb deze gemist

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 04 nov 2020, 22:01
door ll-cool-gj
Als ik het goed begrijp zat de koppelomvormer niet goed. Deze heb ik voor monteren gecontroleerd, 2 x eromheen laten vallen. Die 5 cm had ik ook.

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 nov 2020, 14:43
door john37
Wat bedoel je precies met "KlaK"?Gaat de motor wel opf niet rond ?

Kun je hem wel met een dopsleutel op de krukas rond dan is het de startmotor, of de Niet starten in R,D,2 of 1 schakelaar.

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 nov 2020, 16:35
door ll-cool-gj
Da's een goeie John, want krukas gaat wel rond. Zal de startmotor observeren

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 05 nov 2020, 17:00
door john37
Of je accu is aan gort, of de klemmen zitten er niet goed op.
Wat doet je accu spanning (direct op de polen gemeten) als je probeert te starten ?

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 nov 2020, 21:24
door ll-cool-gj
Accu is in orde. 2 accu s geprobeerd: een 80 en 74, beide zijn nieuw en zakken niet onder de 10v tijdens starten. Startmotor grijpt grote krans aan maar maakt een kleine beweging. Krukas draait wel vrij

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2020, 09:56
door john37
Als je met een dopsleutel op de krukas die helemaal rond kunt, en het lukt de startmotor niet,
Dan zijn er 2 mogelijkheden.

1. Accu stuk
2. Startmotor stuk

Ook allebei is heel goed mogelijk ( weet ik uit ervaring bij een bijna 30 jaar oude niet MB Diesel)
Mijn redenering was toen:
Doordat de (bijna) kapotte accu onvoldoende energie had, kwam het tandwiel bij starten niet snel genoeg op de starterkrans waardoor de schakelaar in het hulprelais op de startmotor kapot ging.

De uitgebouwde oude startmotor wilde niet eens draaien als hij los op de accu zat aangesloten (maar tandwiel kwam wel naar voren)

Na vervangen van de startmotor en accu starte de auto weer als een zonnetje.

MB startmotor.JPG

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2020, 11:13
door ll-cool-gj

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2020, 15:53
door Leeflang
Zijn de massa kabels (accu naar chassis en motor naar chassis) nog in orde?

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2020, 18:55
door ll-cool-gj

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2020, 19:33
door ll-cool-gj
Idd maar super blij!

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 nov 2020, 13:39
door john37
Top dat het is opgelost.

Ik was ervan uitgegaan dat je in beide gevallen de accu direct in de auto had gezet, maar dat was dus niet zo.
Of zoals ze in goed engels zeggen. "Assumptions are the mother of all F*** U**"

Het contactvlak van startkabels is maar heel klein vergeleken met de poolklemmen voor op de accu.
En de meeste startkabels hebben ook nog een erbarmelijk kleine ader doorsnede.

Re: automaatbak

BerichtGeplaatst: 14 nov 2020, 19:27
door ll-cool-gj