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Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 07 feb 2019, 14:54
door opa lucas
Hallo forumleden.

OP mijn zoek en orientatie tocht heb ik een paar dingen die mij niet duidelijk zijn. is het HPF veersysteem alleen als optie geleverd en op welke modellen ?, is dit systeem alleen op een V8 560 standaard of ook als optie ? Hoe is de ervaring van leden met dit systeem, ik heb begrepen dat dit tamelijk gecompliceerd is en duur in een eventuele reparatie.

Groet uit Polen, Opa Lucas.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 07 feb 2019, 19:01
door Vlim
Niet alle 560's hebben HPF. Maar de meeste wel.

Ik weet nog een leuke Zwitserse 560SEL met een beetje werk en géén HPF.

De 560SEC had wel niveauregeling op de achteras, geen HPF. 560SE volgens mij ook niet.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 07 feb 2019, 21:44
door Leeflang

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 feb 2019, 11:09
door opa lucas
Hallo medeleden van het forum,

Bedankt voor de duidelijke uitleg, dat betekent voor mij geen HPF, Hoe werkt de niveauregeling, gaat dit met een aparte pomp en is dit ook te regelen, of heeft dit een instelling wat zich aanpast aan de belasting ?
Lucas.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 feb 2019, 17:31
door Leeflang
Om misverstanden te voorkomen; de hoogte is instelbaar, maar daarvoor moet je onder de auto zijn.
Dat doe je dus niet zomaar even voor de gein en ook niet om de auto te verlagen dan wel verhogen omdat je dat mooier vindt.
Je stelt hem op de juiste hoogte af en daarna zorgt het systeem er automatisch voor dat die hoogte gehandhaafd blijft bij zware belasting.

Een meer technische uitleg: er zit een hefboompje aan de stabilisatiestang van de achteras.
Bij belasting zakt de vering in, waardoor het hefboompje verdraaid.
Het hefboompje bedient een ventiel dat meer olie in de veerbollen toelaat, waardoor de achterkant weer omhoog komt, net zolang tot het hefboompje weer in zijn ingestelde positie staat.
Het afstellen van de juiste hoogte gebeurt door het hefboompje te verstellen.
Het geheel werkt alleen als de motor loopt, alleen dan draait ook de pomp die de olie op voldoende druk brengt om de auto omhoog te kunnen brengen.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 feb 2019, 13:22
door Crunchy
Rijd een auto met niveauregeling ook comfortabeler of heeft dat helemaal geen effect tov HPF?

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 feb 2019, 14:39
door RD500SEC
Niveauregeling ga je waarderen als je veel met wisselende. Belasting rijdt, dan merk je duidelijk verschil met normale vering. Onder normale omstandigheden doet de niveauregeling zijn werk, hij houd de wagen op rijhoogte en je merkt niet dat het er zit.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 feb 2019, 14:48
door opa lucas
Vriendelijk dank voor de uitgebreide uitleg over beide systemen,er zit veel kennis in dit forum. Het is mij nu compleet duidelijk.
Groet Lucas.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 feb 2019, 15:14
door opa lucas
Ik heb intussen het forum flink doorgeworsteld om zo veel mogelijk te weten te komen over de 126, wat ik nog graag wil weten is bij welke gemiddelde kilometer stand de nokkenassen en distributie ketting vervangen worden. is dat bij 150000 of is dit niet te zeggen. Uit mijn ervaring met V6 Ford motoren kwam dit weinig voor, dit waren motoren met klep stoter stangen dus een ander systeem, beneden liggende nokken as etc .Hier moest je elke 10000 km kleppen stellen. Bij de V8 van Mercedes heb je de tuimelaars direct op de nokkenas. Is dit een zwak punt in de V8, en hoe kan je deze slijtage voorkomen.Of is dit bij een hoge kilometerstand normaal,
Lucas.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 feb 2019, 15:23
door Bertorelli

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 feb 2019, 15:49
door opa lucas
Hallo Bertorelli, bedankt voor de tip, ik zal via het ISBN nummer proberen het hier in Polen te bemachtigen.

Groet Lucas.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 feb 2019, 16:08
door RD500SEC

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 feb 2019, 20:20
door Frank117
Als je kunststoffen clips van de olieleidingen vervangt, maak dan ook die leidingen zelf van binnen eens schoon. Ik heb het al meegemaakt dat de uiteinden min of meer verstopt zitten, waardoor de buitenste nokken van de nokkenas minder smering krijgen.
De gaatjes zelf controleren of ze nog goed open zijn.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 feb 2019, 13:27
door Vlim
Ik heb de zwitserse 560SEL net ingeruild op mijn 500SE.
Zat niet op een extra project te wachten, maar voor die prijs kon ik het niet laten. Dus die gaan we rijklaar maken.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 18 feb 2019, 15:39
door Bertorelli
Geen verkeerde ruil dus.

Wel even je profiel aanpassen... ;)
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Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2019, 12:30
door opa lucas
Hallo Vlim,

Ik had begrepen dat je de verzameling zou miniseren, wat is er nu zo speciaal aan een 560 t.o.v een 500, veel succes met het rijklaar maken.
Groet Lucas.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2019, 13:24
door Bram Jansen
Snap het ook niet helemaal

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2019, 16:12
door KlaasCA
Een 560SEL (liefst goed in de opties, wat toch bijna altijd zo is) is toch het neusje van de zalm op W126 gebied, lijkt me.
Kan de keuze wel begrijpen.

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2019, 17:13
door opa lucas
Dat is nou precies wat ik wil weten, warom is een 560 nou zo speciaal , ok een grotere motor inhoud wat meer pk etc. I

Re: Zoek en orientatie tocht

BerichtGeplaatst: 20 feb 2019, 18:11
door Leeflang
Ten opzichte van andere W126's is een 560 standaard voorzien van:
- Elektrische antenne
- Opklapbare armleuning voorin
- Verlichte asbakken met aanstekers in de achterportieren
- Sper differentieel
- Elektrisch bedienbare en verwarmde buitenspiegel rechts
- Meter voor de buitentemperatuur
- Uitstapverlichting in de portieren
- Grotere accu
- Fanfare claxon
- Elektrisch bedienbare ramen voorin en achterin
- Brandblusser
- Opbergvakken aan de rugleuningen van de voorstoelen
- Automatische versnellingsbak
- Luidsprekers achterin
- Gelaagde achterruit
- Wortelnoot hout
- Airconditioning (draaiknoppen bediening)
- Hoofdsteunen achterin
- Lederen stuurwiel en versnellingspook
- Lichtmetalen velgen
- Elektrisch verstelbare stuurkolom
- Leeslampjes achterin
- Metallic lak zonder meerprijs
- Automatische niveauregeling op de achteras
- Velours bekleding (of leer of amaretta zonder meerprijs)
- Radio Becker Mexico Cassette
- Koplampwissers en -sproeiers
- Elektrisch bedienbaar schuif- / hefdak
- Elektrisch verstelbare stoelen met geheugen voorin
- Zonnekleppen met verlichte make-up spiegels
- Tempomat
- Warmtewerend glas rondom

ABS, centrale vergrendeling, opklapbare armleuning achterin, luidsprekers voorin, plafondlamp achterin en toerenteller zijn ook standaard aanwezig, maar dat is bij de andere W126's van de 2e serie ook het geval.

Een 560 heeft dus vrijwel altijd weinig tot geen opties, alles behoort tot de standaarduitrusting.