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W126Club.nl • Leuke Spullen voor onze W126 : Algemene vragen over jouw auto - 3
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Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 20:16
door Leeflang

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 20:22
door Madcat
door er n weerstand tussen te plaatsen die m fopt?
maar ook diegene die ik ken met n nieuwer model MET xenon die zeggen dat er geen problemen zijn .
ik snap t niet,ik ben misschien te blond. Of te laag niveau gehad

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 20:38
door Binsbergen
Er zijn ook 55 watt xenon setjes op de markt. Daarvan gaat je lampcontrole gegarandeerd niet gek doen want er is geen verschil met een normale halogeen.
Enige verschil is overigens een weerstand in de starter....

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 20:56
door Leeflang
De xenon lampen doen het prima hoor, alleen dat lampje op het dashboard wil ik dus uit hebben, zonder het lampje er uit te halen en liefst ook niet met vermogensweerstanden.
Vermogensweerstanden is een optie, maar daar zijn er dan 4 van nodig en die dingen voor minstens 55 c.q. 60 Watt kosten ook nogal wat, een tientje per stuk ben je zo kwijt, en bovendien vind ik het een beetje zonde om alleen voor een lampencontrole lampje een elektrisch kacheltje van ruim 100 Watt onder de motorkap te bouwen.
Voor can bus zijn er wel oplossingen bedacht, maar voor de oude technologie in de W126 kan ik nog niets vinden, behalve dan die vermogensweerstanden, die zie je wel eens toegepast.

De set die ik heb wordt direct aangesloten op de accu en er zit een connector aan die in één van de koplamp stekkers gestoken moet worden om de lampen mee in te schakelen.
Dat trekt denk ik niet erg veel stroom en bovendien maar uit één koplamp aansluiting, de andere blijft leeg.
De stroom wordt dus niet uit de koplamp stekkers gehaald, maar rechtstreeks van de accu.
Die 55 Watt xenon setjes kan ik niet vinden (zeker niet bij autospul.nl), hooguit xenon-look lampen.

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 22:00
door Binsbergen
Als het goed is heb je 2 voorschakelweerstanden die elk op 1 aansluiting van een koplamp aangesloten worden
Vanuit elk van die voorschakelweerstanden gaan 2 draden naar de lampen

Dan zou je volgens mij ook geen probleem hebben

Xenon wat stroom rechtstreeks haalt bij de accu heb ik nog nooit gezien


Overigens
De 55 watt setjes haal ik via Ebay
Deze aanbieder heeft ze niet

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 22:10
door Madcat
er zijn inderdaad setjes die alleen geschakeld worden door de schakelaar en de spanning van de accu moet hebben, volgens de beschrijving van vele setjes staat dat je de +kabel rechtstreeks op de+pool van accu de -kabel op t chassis OF rechtstreeks op de -pool moet zetten en de 3weg-stekker op de lamp. of heb ik t dan verkeerd gelezen :?

ik weet niet hoeveel n halogeenlamp gebruikt, daar heb ik nog nooit heen gekeken.

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 23 aug 2011, 22:38
door Leeflang
Het setje dat ik heb komt overeen met dit schema:hid.jpg
Een halogeen lamp is normaal gesproken 55/60 Watt.

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 12:06
door Rene500SEC
Heb het setje op de corvette zitten met can-bus ...werkt top.

Op de Benz ook....

Heb dan wel type 1 dus zonder indicatie HAD ik een type 2 gewoon lampje eruit.

Waarom allemaal moeilijk doen?

Omdat hij orgineel moet blijven?

Dan moet je in eerste instantie ook geen HID erin moeten bouwen,maar dat is natuurlijk mijn visie erover.

Overigs als er ECHT animo voor is wil ik wel eens kijken hoe je dat op kan oplossen hoor.

Hoor al weerstanden van een 10 p/s e.d.

denk dat het wel simpeler kan,heb het nog niet bekeken maar voor de bekende in de electronica werkt het principe 'waarschijnlijk' gewoon via de 1ste wet van kirchoff.

Voor de geinstreseerde hier een link.

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetten_van_Kirchhoff

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 14:47
door Leeflang

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 16:44
door Wimada
Dat is mij allemaal erg onduidelijk,ben wel bekend met de wet van Flupke.

Gr. Wim

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 17:13
door Madcat
als je er n vervangingsweerstand tussen zet kom je weer op de 55W
de xenon gebruikt 35W (volgens mij) als je dus n weerstand ertussen zet, kom je er wel met andere woorden vervang je de 15W door n weerstand (in serie) van 10ohm zou je normaal gesproken toch goed zitten of :?:

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 17:38
door Wallietax

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 18:06
door Madcat
:lol: ook meer wrijvingsweerstand, dan moet je er toch ook uit komen Walli
its all about weerstand :lol:

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 18:37
door Leeflang

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 24 aug 2011, 19:55
door Madcat
klopt leeflang, je hebt volkomen gelijk, niet serie maar paralel.
heb net n grote toets achter de rug met dit soort berekeningen en nog veel meer.pfff beetje gaar van :ugeek: :geek:
maar ik zou dus ook gewoon t lampje eruit knikkeren, er zijn genoeg merken die geen controllelampje erin hebben en die mensen doen t er ook mee, zouden die personen met n nieuwer type (hier uit de buurt) dan ook t lampje hebben verwijderd? even navraag doen!

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 aug 2011, 07:32
door Rene500SEC
@leeflang Ik begrijp uit je verhaal dat je een weerstand aan de xenon lamp naar ground wil leggen.

Of een weerstand VOOR de unit naar ground???

Als je dat gaat doen,maak even een filmpje voor youtube.......

Theorie en voornamelijk de wet van ohm,werkt in de praktijk niet helemaal.

Op de HTS bij ons was er zelfs een jongen die afgestudeerd is op die wet.

Hij bewees dat er veel meer variabelen zijn,zoals impendantie en temperatuur coefficent van de wikkeling die vaak in shunt weerstanden worden gebruikt ect ect.


Succes gewenst met het xenon verhaal.

Rene

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 aug 2011, 09:40
door Wimada
Zo nu eerst een Bavaria :S

Gr. Wim

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 aug 2011, 11:23
door Rene500SEC
Ik kom er aan Wim,zet hem alvast koud die halve liters van jou.

Kan ik gelijk even naar je verlichting kijken....even een aanpassing aan doen ofzo.... :lol:

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 aug 2011, 12:40
door Wimada
Staan altijd koud hier Jongen.

Gr. wim :P

Re: Leuke Spullen voor onze W126

BerichtGeplaatst: 25 aug 2011, 12:42
door Bloodnose
Als ik niet al blond was geweest ben ik het nu wel geworden !!! :twisted:


Groet Willem