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W126Club.nl • Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk? : Interieur
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Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 jan 2015, 18:21
door Nusteen
Uit een 280SE heb ik de elektrische ramen met kabelboom gehaald om in mijn 280S in te bouwen.
Nu heb ik net een schema op het forum bekeken en daar zie ik ook dat er een relais in hoort te zitten.
Deze heb ik niet uit de auto gehaald en de (sloop) auto is inmiddels weg.

Nu vroeg ik mij af wat de functie van dit relais is? In hoeverre is dit relais noodzakelijk om de ramen goed te kunnen laten functioneren? Als ik direct op 12 V (afgezekerd) aansluit dan werkt het toch ook? Zonder condities van contact aan/ deur open etc... Het lijkt mij dat het dan altijd werkt omdat je continu spanning hebt. Kan iemand mij uitleggen waarom ik dit relais zou willen/ moeten gebruiken?

Op welke zekeringen zitten de ramen normaal aangesloten en hoe is dit alles afgekeerd, 10A?(dit heb ik nog niet gezocht op het forum maar misschien dat iemand mij dit zo even kan zeggen - ik heb gezien dat je twee zekeringen gebruikt- LV+RA en RV+LA).

Ik ben benieuwd.

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 jan 2015, 21:22
door ElGriffo
De functie van een relais zou kunnen zijn dat ze alleen werken met contact aan.

Het staat toch ook in het schema

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 10 jan 2015, 22:30
door Leeflang
Het schema dat je gevonden hebt zal dat van de Amerikaanse versie zijn.
In de Europese versie horen er zelfs 2 relais bij.
De tweede is voor de bediening met de auto uit en met geopend voorportier.
In Amerika zijn dan wel de stoelen te bedienen, maar niet de ramen, vandaar een relais minder voor de ramen.

Het gaat om zekeringen a en b, dat zijn 16 ampère zekeringen.
De (of het) relais zit(ten) aan zekering 7.

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 jan 2015, 02:47
door Danny
Zelde trukje gedaan,zonder relais :eek:

Werkt perfect ( op contact) :handgestures-thumbup:

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 jan 2015, 10:49
door Douwe
Ik raad aan het wel via een relais te doen.
het relais laten aansturen via accessoires stand van het contact
dus auto op contact dan pas spanning op de raam contacten in de deuren
een constante spanning op de ramen is niet verstandig .
bij regen kan hier vocht bij komen wat sluiting veroorzaakt.
wat dan weer een lege accu kan veroorzaken.
Of als een schakelaar sluiting maakt verbrand de elektromotor wat ook de hele auto kan laten afbranden.
een relais aansluiten kost minder tijd dan achteraf de oorzaak zoeken van een lege accu of een uitgebrande auto weer oplappen :handgestures-thumbup:

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 jan 2015, 13:48
door Leeflang
Direct (zonder relais) achter het contactslot lijkt me ook niet raadzaam.
Relais zijn gebouwd om een hoge stroomsterkte te verdragen, schakelaars (zoals het contactslot) minder.
Het contactslot van de W126 is tamelijk robuust, maar er zit ook al aardig wat op aangesloten.
Als je veel dingen tegelijk bedient zou het toch wel eens te veel kunnen worden voor het contactslot.

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 jan 2015, 14:39
door Douwe
dat is ook het geen ik bedoelde leeflang

Re: Relais elektrische ramen noodzakelijk?

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 jan 2015, 19:39
door Nusteen
Bedankt allemaal. Het is mij duidelijk nu. Ik ga een relais plaatsen.
Bedankt voor de reacties. Ben ik mee geholpen! ;)