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W126Club.nl • slechte koude start : LPG Specifiek - 2
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Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 nov 2012, 12:54
door TeunBong
Ik heb een plunjer die er voor zorgt dat de schade bij een backfire beperkt blijft.
Deze plunjer drukt de stuwschijf iets naar beneden als er gasdruk is.

Nu heb ik deze plunjer gedemonteerd en starten gaat dan lastiger.
De plunjer zit er nu weer op een start een stuk beter.

De opening van de stuwschijf, door de plunjer, maakt het het gas gemakkelijker binnen te dringen.
En dus gemakkelijker starten.

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 nov 2012, 13:25
door ElGriffo
Kun je niet op benzine starten dan ?

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 nov 2012, 16:30
door Douwe
harm als je nu al last van bevriesing hebt dan word het tijd voor je koelvloeistof peil te controleren
en even in je slangen naar de verdamper een pomp in bouwen en hij bevriest niet gauw weer
ik heb het afgelopen winter nog getset en zelfs met - 15 was het starten en rijden op LPG en geen 1 hikje meer gehad
daarvoor was het zelfs smorgens een probleem als ik de wagen uit de garage had gehaald en het zo rond het vriespunt was
dan had ze al last van bevriesings neigingen ;)

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 11 nov 2012, 23:19
door HVos126
Inderdaad.
Ik had ook al last met op LPG rijden onder +10 graden.
Na zo'n 500 mtr begon de verdamper al te bevriezen.

Tot ik de oplossing van Douwe op dit forum zag :)
Een waterpomp monteren in de toevoer leiding naar je verdamper.
Zo kreeg hij snel al wat warmer water en heb geen enkele bevriezing meer gehad nu.
Ik weet, de winter moet nog komen, maar ik heb vertrouwen dat ik minder snel last van een bevroren verdamper ga krijgen nu.
Het is een paar keer maar net boven nul geweest (+3) en ook toen geen problemen gehad.

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 nov 2012, 21:37
door Douwe
er zit op die leidingen geen tot weinig stroming
vandaar dat Mercedes een pomp in de kachel heeft gezet
nu word op die zelfde leidingen ook nog een verdamper geplaatst
je zal dan begrijpen dat het geen de gevorseerde door stroming heeft alle warmte krijgt
en op den duur komt de gelijdings warmte wel bij de verdamper maar dit is te weinig
een verdamper heeft stroming nodig om de kou uit het gas af te geven aan het koel water
geen stroming is geen afgifte koud dus bevriesing
ciculatie van het koel water door de verdamper voorkomt bevriesing ;)

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 12 nov 2012, 22:54
door Buurman
En aangezien ik "Douwe's systeem" in mijn Benz heb zitten zal ik straks ook kunnen ervaren dat het prima werkt, tot nu toe met ca. 6 graden boven nul nog geen problemen ondervonden... :)

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2012, 19:50
door Douwe
de vraag is of het sinds al die problemen bij jou nog werkt zoals ik het bedoelt heb
of dat er onder tussen zoveel verandert is dat zelfs dat niet meer functioneerd ;) :D :D

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2012, 21:52
door Wimada
Vorig jaar winter ook geen problemen gehad,maar ze stond ook binnen onder een kleed :lol:

Gr. Wim

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 13 nov 2012, 23:00
door Buurman
Douwe daar is niks aan veranderd.

Tis binnenkort wel weer 5 december dus ik zou bijna zeggen":
"Oh kom er eens kijken wat er onder mijn motorkap zit..... :D

Het is zo goed als allemaal nog hetzelfde en wat starten op LPG betreft met koud weer heb ik er dan ook het volste vertrouwen in.

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 07 dec 2012, 10:02
door Wiebson
Bevriest de verdamper bij een 280SE ook zo snel?? Heb de afgelopen weken nog nergens last van gehad... uiteraard wel rustig warm rijden.

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 07 dec 2012, 12:43
door Douwe
bij een 280 zal het wel wat mee vallen deze heben een betere door stroming en zit de verdamper vaak heel anders aangesloten dan bij een V8 ;)
bij een V8 word hij volledig bij de kachel afgetapt en bij een 280 niet ;)

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 dec 2012, 16:37
door Warmerdam
temperatuur lager dan 6 start ik op benzine na 2km schakel ik over op gas.
als ik de motor start zowel op benzine als gas altijd zonder het pendaal aan
te raken gaat super.
Gr. warmerdam

Re: slechte koude start

BerichtGeplaatst: 15 dec 2012, 23:43
door Buurman
Met min 2 C. sleutel draaien en binnen 1 1/2 SEC. aanslaan.
Geen gaspedaal stukje "intrappen" aangezien de motor meteen aanslaat en backfire-risico mijnsinziens niet aan de orde is.
Zet wel de installatie handmatig op LPG aamgezien die fabrieksmatig op benzine start.
Dit omdat ie op LPG meteen mooi loopt en benzine oetsie meer tijd nodig heeft ( 1/2 minuutje hooguit) om mooi rond te lopen.
En aangezien ik gewoon meteen kan rijden op LPG zonder bevriezingsverschijnselen sla ik de benzine over.