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Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor 500SEL » 29 sep 2010, 17:34

Hallo allemaal,

Gisteren tijdens het rijden gewoon zomaar zonder dat er wat raars gebeurde begonde mjn bak te slippen van zijn 2 na 3 erg en van zijn 3 na 4 klein beetje. Meteen naar een garage gegaan. Ze zeiden dat ik het olie moest laten verversen en het filter. Dus ik dat laten doen maar nee nog steeds het zelfde probleem.
Nu heb ik op paar forums gelezen dat je bij deze autos op 2 plekken een bout hebt voor het legen van zijn bak olie. Ene is van zijn carter pannetje en het ander van de koppelomvormer ofzo???
Bij de garage hebben zij alleen maar zijn carter geleegd.

Wat mij is opgevallen dat als hij van 2 na 3 schakeld en hij begint net te slippen, neem ik dan meteen iets gas terug en weer gas in dan slipt hij niet schakeld hij meteen door.

Wat ik nu wil vragen is of je deze autos echt op 2 plekken moet legen zijn bak? Zo ja zou dat dan invloed hebben dat er bij mij alleen het carter is geleegd en nog mijn bak slipt.?
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Olijfje » 29 sep 2010, 17:51

klopt inderdaad , wil je het compleet doen moet ook de koppelomvormer leeg... jammer dat jou garage hier niet mee kwam, nu is alle nieuwe olie met de oude vermengd.
meestal is verversen alleen genoeg. wel serieus peilen na de verversing teveel of te weinig olie werkt ook niet lekker. soms wordt ook de k1 piston vervangen dit is een modificatieonderdeel waardoor de bak iets vlotter doorschakelt.

ik heb dit klusje samen met de jongens van de hobby werkplaats geklaard.
maar een beetje Mercedes kenner weet ook de kneepjes van de verversing natuurlijk.
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Olijfje » 29 sep 2010, 17:52

we waren zowat tegelijk hans !
maar dubbelop wel zo duidelijk.

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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Rik » 29 sep 2010, 18:34

Nou ja dan hier 3 dubbel, ik heb het ook samen met de jongens van de hobby hut gedaan, en de koppelomvormer werd als eerste geleegd.
Na het carter het filter en goed schoonmaken.

Jammer dat ze daar half werk hebben verricht.

Ik zou idd terug gaan.
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor 500SEL » 29 sep 2010, 19:41

oke dus nu snap ik dat het bij mij verkeerd is gebeurd. Weet iemand misschien waar ik dat K1 piston kan kopen? Heb het hier bij paar automateriaal zaken gevraagd en zi konden mij geen K1 piston leveren.
En hoe kan je dat koppelomvormer leeg maken dan? Heb er vandaag even onder gekeken maar kon niks zo zien.
Maar kan iemand mij zeggen of ik met iets kan testen of mijn bak kapot is of niet. Omdat ik namelijk anders meteen een andere bak eronder laat zetten en niet gaan klooien met dat K1 piston of dat koppelomvormer.
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Jeff_560_SEL » 29 sep 2010, 20:00

Als ik jou was zou ik as zaterdag even naar Zutphen rijden en bij de hobbyhut je versnellingsbak- en koppelomvormer olie en K1 vernieuwen en dan weet je zeker dat het goed is.

Enschede - Zutphen is 30 min rijden en het leuke ervan is dat je dan gelijk ok wat leden leert kennen daar irl, ik ben er zelf as zaterdag ook


Kan Hans je gelijk laten zien waar de moer van de koppelomvormer zit.
Vervang in ieder geval ook je filter
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 29 sep 2010, 20:32

Jef, een beter advies kon er niet gegeven worden.
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor 500SEL » 01 okt 2010, 20:44

olie is eruit gehaald weer, nu ook van het koppel omvormer en mijn K1 piston heb ik ook veranderd. Nu is hij opgehouden met het slippen. :D :D
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Olijfje » 02 okt 2010, 08:26

blij om te horen !

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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Timo » 02 okt 2010, 20:17

Is je bak versleten als je de piston pen, olie/filter hebt vervangen en de druk goed staat,
en hij slipt nog steeds in zijn 2 na 3, 3 na 4??
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Rik » 03 okt 2010, 12:11

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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 03 okt 2010, 18:23

Het slippen van 2 naar 3 en de 4e versnelling, kan verschillende oorzaken hebben.
Te beginnen met de eenvoudigste oorzaak:
1e. de afstelling van de moduleerdruk
Rij eens met afgekoppelde vacuĆ¼m leiding, van de automaat.
Slipt de automaat dan nog door, dan ontbreekt de temperatuur smoorklep of de afdichting ring is beschadigd.

2e de teflonring van de voorste deksel controleren, is die in orde dan;
3e de binnen lamellen van koppeling K1 vervangen.

Punt 2 en 3 zijn helaas geen klusjes voor de doe het zelfer.
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Re: Automaat bak slipt heel raar

Berichtdoor Timo » 04 okt 2010, 20:38

Rik, schakelmoment is goed..

vlieger, dat word dan geen klusje voor mij haha.
Het zal wel op punt 2 of 3 aankomen.

Dan laat ik dit nog even liggen.
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