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automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 29 okt 2022, 10:03

Hallo allemaal,

Tijdens mijn laatste rit ging tijdens het rijden de toerenteller omhoog, maar de auto ging niet voorruit.
Ben toen heel langzaam en met hoog toerental naar huis gereden.

Ik merkte tijdens het rijden ook dat dat de automaatpook niet goed in de D bleef staan.
De wagen staat nu helaas stil, er is niet mee te rijden.

Heeft iemand een idee waar ik kan beginnen met foutzoeken?

Alvast bedankt!
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor Neerven » 29 okt 2022, 14:23

Ik zou eens beginnen met de bakolie te peilen.
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 29 okt 2022, 14:41

Dat had ik al gedaan, kon een kwart litertje bij. Helaas verhielp dat niet het probleem...
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 30 okt 2022, 09:24

Dan toch maar even de vraag, hoe heb je de bak olie gepeild??
Met draaiende warme motor??
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 01 nov 2022, 12:23

Met warme bak en draaiende motor gepeilt. Dit heb ik meteen gedaan toen het probleem zicht voordeed, motor was toen goed heet.

Tijdens het rijden vloog het toerental omhoog.
De pook bleef niet in D en hij schakelde niet op, dus kon in heel hoog toerental nog naar huis sukkelen...
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor Bert420se » 01 nov 2022, 22:29

De vraag is of de stand van de pook nog correspondeert met de schakelarm op de bak. Dit eerst controleren.
Ook de vraag of de mechanische of vacuĆ¼m regeling van de bakdruk nog in orde is.
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 03 nov 2022, 14:14

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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 04 nov 2022, 09:46

Hoi Bas,

De pook-bakverbinding kun je het beste van onderen controleren. De stang van de pook zit vast aan een stang die naar de hendel op de bak loopt. Op de verbindingen horen kunststof ringen te zitten. Deze zijn vaak helemaal kapot en zelfs verdwenen waardoor er speling op de stang komt, de pook los aanvoelt en de bak ook niet meer goed in de goede standen gezet kan worden. Vernieuw deze ringetjes dus.

Je kan de hendel aan de bak controleren, deze maakt maar een beweging die correspondeert met de standen van de pook PRNDSL.

Succes! Math
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 01 dec 2022, 11:40

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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 01 dec 2022, 11:46

ik denk dat het deze moeten zijn:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/125458997160?_t ... %3A2047675

of toch zoiets:
https://www.winparts.be/onderstel-aandr ... 3902.html#

ik denk dat ik deze koop, hier zitten de meeste rubbertjes in:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/295284329290?ep ... R5T6r9GZYQ
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 01 dec 2022, 18:15

Die witte zijn de juiste, onderdeelnummer A1159920310.
Bij de Mercedes dealer te koop voor bijna 3 euro per stuk (2 stuks nodig).
Optimum aut nihil.
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 03 dec 2022, 10:59

Hoi Bas,

Bij de dealer is in dit geval een goede optie.
Anders is het van Febi deze (van jouw genoemde site): Bus schakelstang, Productnummer: 0127458 Fabrikantcode: 08224 EAN: 4027816082248

Ik had er laatst helaas maar eentje besteld. Heb aan de pookzijde dus maar zelf een ander zwart kunstof ringetje gebruikt, werkt ook prima.
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Succes en ik hoop dat het dat is...

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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 14 dec 2022, 16:31

Bedankt voor de foto's Math.

Ik heb allebei de rubbers vervangen door de transparante.
Dat ging goed, maar wel alleen nadat ik die rubbers in kokend water heb gelegd om ze soepel te maken.

De pook voelt nu natuurlijk veel beter aan.
Ben een stuje gaan rijden en het probleem leek weg.
Bij koude motor/bak rijd de wagen goed??

Echter op de terugweg begon het toerental weer op te lopen zonder dat ik sneller ging. Dus al ik gas geef gaan de toeren omhoog, maar de wagen niet harder vooruit.

Kon weer met hoog toerental heer langzaam naar huis...

Nog een symptoom:
bij stilstand in de D of de R zetten vanuit N duurt ruim 10+ seconden voordat ik voel dat de wagen wil rijden.
Koud deed hij dat niet....

kortom, de rubbers hebben het probleem niet verholpen...

Alle tips zijn wekom!
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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 14 dec 2022, 18:32

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Re: automaat versnellingsbak probleem?

Berichtdoor basco1 » 13 sep 2023, 10:54

Ik ben jullie nog een antwoord verschuldigd.

Ik heb het filter + olie + pakking + drukstifjes besteld.
Ik meen me te herinnneren dat er zo'n 7 liter uit is gelopen, weet het niet meer precies.
Heb in ieder geval ook de koppelomvormerbout losgedraaid, daar kwamen ook de nodige liters uit.
Even een groete dop op de krukas, langzaam draaien en de bout komt tevoorschijn door een klein gat onder op de koppelomvormer.
Het filter zat heel vol, heb het open gemaakt, ik denk niet dat het nog als filter functioneerde.
Nieuw filter, stifjes, pakking, de boel dichtgedraaid, 4 liter olie erin, goed warm laten draaien, daarna meten met peilstok en geleidelijk aan bijvullen.

Bovenstaande ging best goed.

Daarna een proefrit gemaakt...
Geen problemen meer, schakelde boterzacht!
Wat rijdt zo'n ding toch fijn he.

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