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bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 16 maart 2016, 20:51

(Door Bram Jansen Naar ik veronderstel post20163.html#p20163)

Ik zal mij eerst even voor stellen, ben eerder op het forum geweest met de naam oldtimer..mijn naam is johan, heb sinds kort een 500SEC, waar ik tegen het probleem aan loop dat de bobine zo heet wordt dat er al twee stuks zijn doorgebrand..auto loopt verder goed start super..

Wat ik reeds gedaan heb, andere bougies ngk bpes.
Massa overal schoon gemaakt,
en heb een weerstand vervangen, deze zat onder de rempomp op een zeer moeilijke plek,maar weet niet of dit een kachel weerstand is??

Graag hoor ik van jullie wat tips, alvast heel erg bedankt voor jullie moeite,

Gr. Johan
jwl
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 16 maart 2016, 21:06

wilde er nog even bij zeggen ik meet op de plus van de bobine terwijl die loopt 13,4 volt en op de andere pool ca 9volt
jwl
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor Harm1 » 16 maart 2016, 22:08

Goedenavond. Bij mijn weten wordt de primaire spoel in ohm en de secundaire spoel in K-ohm gemeten?. De waardes weet ik niet. Even hier kijken of goochelen. Condensator?
mvg. Harm.
Oh ja, wederwelkom natuurlijk!
Harm1
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 16 maart 2016, 23:10

dankje Harm..
jwl
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor vVuuren » 16 maart 2016, 23:16

Ik ken de schakeling/het schema van de bobine van deze auto niet maar als ze herhaaldelijk doorbranden dan lijkt het er op dat er een voorschakelweerstand tussen moet zitten die (in serie met de bobine) ingeschakeld moet zijn bij normaal bedrijf.

Bij het starten wordt een dergelijke voorschakelweerstand door het contactslot overbrugt zodat de vonk sterker is bij het starten.
Dan werkt de bobine onder een hogere aangelegde spanning. De directe accuspanning.
Maar zal doorbranden als de accuspanning er constant op staat.

Bij oude Japanse auto's zat deze weerstand op de bobine gemonteerd, dat was erg duidelijk.

Mogelijk zijn er in de tijd verschillende bobines in een SEC toegepast?
Dan heb je wellicht steeds de verkeerde gemonteerd..
vVuuren
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 17 maart 2016, 10:55

heel erg bedankt voor jullie reacties tot dusver..ik heb de 963 motor..dus dan is die weerstand onder de rempomp dus van de kachel..wat ik wel vreemd vind? is als ik die kachel weerstand compleet weg laat? en onderbreek..de kachel gewoon werkt..??

ik zal even checken welke verdelerkap ik heb plus rotor..
jwl
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 17 maart 2016, 19:34

hallo allemaal....

ik heb Bosch rotor..verdelerkap kan ik geen merk vinden.. beru siliconen kabels en ngk bp6es

vanmidsag ontplofte de bobine terwijl die gewoon op contact stond ca uurtje...
dit moet toch zowiezo niet kunnen met elektronische ontsteking?

mischien geeft dit een van jullie een ide? ik heb nog geen ide..

johan
jwl
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 18 maart 2016, 02:09

bedoel je het hele kastje vervangen?

ik dacht dat bobine met elekt ontsteking nooit heet werd op contact..

hebben jullie nog meer ideen?of misch es het zelfde meegemaakt? dat bobine te heet wordt?
jwl
 


Re: bobine brand steeds door 500SEC 1982

Berichtdoor jwl » 18 maart 2016, 02:31

ik lees net op het forum..bobine met bijbehorende ontsteking na 1982..ik heb dus een oude type ontsteking van voor 82 waar de voorschakel weerstand bij hoort...zou dit het probleem kunnen zijn?

oude onstekingsmodule..met nieuwere type bobine?

graag hoor ik reacties..

alvast bedankt..
jwl
 


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