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Berichtdoor os370jon » 10 jun 2016, 13:10

Ik heb geen noemenswaardige onderhoudsdocumentatie van de vorige eigenaren van mijn 500SE uit 1986. ik ben bezig om achterstallig onderhoud weg te (laten) werken.Is uit de staat van de ketting op te maken of die aan vervanging toe is? Ik heb geen klachten maar heb ergens gelezen dat de ketting na 200.000 km vervangen moet worden. Die van mij heeft 260 gereden.
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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor Bertorelli » 10 jun 2016, 14:56

Ik dacht dat het na 250.000 moest, maar zeker weet ik dat ook niet.
Vervang ook meteen de geleiders als je de boel toch open hebt liggen.

Je kunt de kettingspanning ook op laten meten om te kijken hoeveel rek er inzit, maar dat zegt niets over de staat van de ketting zelf natuurlijk.
Heb je geen historie, dan zou ik het risico niet nemen, want mocht de ketting (of een geleider) stuk gaan, ben je verder van huis.
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Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 10 jun 2016, 15:05

Je kan de rek van de ketting opmeten, meer dan 10 krukasgraden is vervangen.
Met de klepdeksels eraf draai je de motor rechts!! om aan de krukaspoeliebout, zet de nokkenassen op hun merkteken (cil. 1 BDP van de compressieslag) en lees de krukasgraden af op de poelie, dan weet je de rek.
Bij linksom draaien zullen er ketting geleiders breken, vandaar alleen rechtsom draaien, ook als je net iets te ver bent, dan gewoon nog een rondje (of twee).
Met de bougies verwijdert draait het het makkelijkste.
De rek van de ketting is een maat voor de slijtage, er komt ruimte op alle draaipunten van de ketting, daardoor wordt deze langer.
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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor Frasp » 10 jun 2016, 18:26

Ik heb even mijn topic over de ketting naar boven gehaald.

advies-gevraagd-m117-ketting-en-geleiders-t14701-20.html

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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor os370jon » 10 jun 2016, 21:04

In het filmpje van wheeler dealers wordt gesproken over 100.000 mile en dat is 160.000 kilometer i.p.v. 200.000 kilometer wat ik dacht.
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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor Frasp » 10 jun 2016, 21:42

Bij mijn auto staat de teller nu op 230.000 miles, Dus 370.000 kilometer. Ik ben de tweede eigenaar en heb vorig jaar in Cambridge de eerste eigenaar van de auto gesproken. Er is nooit een nieuwe ketting in mijn auto gekomen. Er is nooit bespaard op olie en oliewissels. Alle beurten gehad en gewoon goed onderhouden. De rek op mijn ketting is iets meer dan 10 graden en dus nog ruim binnen de marge die Mercedes stelt voor de M117 motor.
Het is (in mijn ogen) dus verstandig om niet te fixeren op de miles of km stand maar op de rek die je af kunt lezen.
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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 15 jun 2016, 13:01

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Berichtdoor Jjvn123 » 15 jun 2016, 13:30

Nog een vraagje betreffende de ketting: heeft die een sluiting ? Maw, kun je hem splitsen ?
Ik wil uit een sloopblok de nokkenassen demonteren en meestal kun je die er wel uit friemelen wanneer de spanning van de ketting af is maar de ketting demonteren is natuurlijk mooier.
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Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 15 jun 2016, 16:28

Een originele ketting is oneindig, bij vervangen kan je of een oneindige plaatsen, dan moet je de distributiedeksel verwijderen voor demonteren en monteren. Of een open ketting en die dicht klinken, of een visje gebruiken, in de laatste gevallen kan je de deksel op zijn plaats laten en de ketting doorrijgen.

Of het 380 blok wat jij voor je hebt een open of een oneindige ketting heeft is zo dus niet te zeggen, je zult de ketting moeten bekijken. Zet de motor op BDP eerste cilinder, dan zou je als er een visje zit, deze moeten zien.
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Berichtdoor Jjvn123 » 16 jun 2016, 12:10

OK, bedankt ! Ga dit weekeinde eens even goed kijken.
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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor os370jon » 03 jul 2016, 11:44

Ketting na laten kijken bij Dedde Vreeswijk in Noordhorn vlakbij Groningen-is een oud Mercedes Benz monteur heb ik me laten vertellen en heeft een paar hele mooie jaren 50/60 benzen in zijn loods staan. Doet ook laswerk en spuiten kan ie ook regelen. Mijn 2 achterspatborden wil ik nog laten doen eind dit jaar.

maar goed de ketting kan nog wel paar 100.000 kilometer mee zei die.
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Re: distributieketting

Berichtdoor Douwe » 03 jul 2016, 19:42

Je kan om de nokkenassen te demonteren ook gewoon het tandwiel van de nokkenas afhalen kan de ketting gewoon blijfen zitten.
Ik borg de ketting op het tandwiel aan beide zijden met tyrips zo blijft altijd de tandwiel op de juiste afstand in de ketting
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