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Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 18 mei 2017, 19:23

1428_1.jpgIk heb hier zo'n module liggen waarvan ik me afvraag of hij nog werkt. Helaas heb ik geen 280 staan waar ik hem in kan uitproberen.
Nu is mijn vraag, zou ik hem niet kunnen testen door hem op de één of andere manier uit te meten? Bestaan hier gegevens van?
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Vlim » 18 mei 2017, 19:30

Die zou op alle motoren moeten werken. Ook op een serie 1 380 en 500. En op de W116s met K jetronic.
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 18 mei 2017, 19:46

Die werkt alleen bij ontstekingen met voorschakel weerstanden.
Hij werkt zowiezo niet met ontstekingen zonder voorschakelweerstanden.
Dus als je hem wil testen op een auto kijk daar dan eerst naar
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 18 mei 2017, 23:27

Wat ik eigenlijk zou willen weten of je hem gewoon, los van een auto, kan doormeten.
Ik heb wel een losse delco van een 280, dus een puls kan ik via de groene kabel wel genereren.
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 19 mei 2017, 01:04

Als je ook nog een bobine hebt en de voorschakelweerstanden en een bougie kun je alles aan elkaar knopen en zien of de bougie vonkt.

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De startmotor kun je wel achterwege laten en in plaats van contactslot pin 15 kun je a aan de plus van de accu aansluiten.
Ik zou de bougie rechtstreeks aan pin 4 van de bobine hangen, niet via de verdeler, dan kun je met 1 bougie testen i.p.v. 6.
De spanningen die in de tekening staan, gelden in rust, dus de verdeler geeft nog geen pulsjes aan de ontstekingsmodule.
Er loopt dan een stroom van zo'n 8 ampère door de weerstanden, bobine en ontstekingsmodule (een simpele 12 volt stekkervoeding volstaat dus niet, gebruik een accu of een serieuze voeding die moeiteloos de 8 ampère kan leveren).
De weerstanden zullen heet worden, brand je vingers niet!
Niet langdurig zo aangesloten laten terwijl de verdeler stil staat, de bobine zou door kunnen branden.
Een tijdje kan wel, om te meten, maar als je een koffie- of lunchpauze wilt houden, koppel dan de accu los.
Breng je de verdeler in beweging, dan geeft die pulsjes aan de ontstekingsmodule, die onderbreekt de stroom door de bobine bij elke puls, de bobine transformeert de spanningswisseling tot een hoogspanning die de bougie doet vonken.

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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 19 mei 2017, 11:44

Dat is een schema waar ik iets aan heb. Die voorschakelweerstanden en bobines heb ik ook, zelfs nog de 4-polige stekker die op de module past.
Volgende week eens zo'n opstelling maken.
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 30 mei 2017, 21:35

Vandaag de opstelling gemaakt zoals het schema aangeeft, was nog niet eens zoveel werk. Gelukkig vond ik nog een afgeknipte 4-polige stekker die op de module hoort, alle andere spullen waren al aanwezig.
3 modules getest, alle drie goed!
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor turbopapa » 01 jun 2017, 01:12

Zuinig op zijn.
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Coupe280 » 01 jun 2017, 15:55

Ik heb er ook een paar.
Die vonken ook maar blijven stationair niet lopen,
Met een later type vedeler waar ik weerstanden tussen geschakeld heb.
Dus volgens mij moet het hele systeem wel bij elkaar passen
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Re: Ontstekingsmodule 280 doormeten?

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 01 jun 2017, 22:55

Ik heb gemerkt dat je zelfs een vonk hebt als je heel traag aan de as van de pulsgever draait. Veel trager dan dat de pulsgever draait op startmotorsnelheid. En dat was bij alle drie mijn modules het geval.
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