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Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor w126560td » 17 jul 2016, 18:53

W126 560SEL type 2 motor swap 3.0 turbo diesel m603

Een airco boer in turkije heeft mij systeem gevuld maar ik heb mijn twijfels of dit goed is gedaan.

R134a 900 gram. Ik heb gelezen dat er 1300 Gr. in moet.
Olie 5 ml. Im heb gelezen dat er 120 ml in moet.

Systeem is aangepast voor r134a door vorige eigenaar en airco werkt goed maar wordt pas na 30 miniuten ijskoud.

Graag zou ik willen weten of de olie en gas hoeveelheid voldoende zijn.
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor Weizengelb » 17 jul 2016, 19:15

Waarschijnlijk is je systeem alleen bijgevuld dan.

Er gaat geloof ik wel 1500 gram in normaal (dat is bij mij er totaal weer ingegaan).

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Berichtdoor w126560td » 17 jul 2016, 19:24

Systeem is niet bijgevuld, systeem is helemaal leeg gezon en vacuüm erop. De hoeveelheid wat ik boven heb benoemd is alles wat er nu in zit. Hoeveel ml olie is er bij jou ingegaan?
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor Gerko » 17 jul 2016, 20:09

De aircoboer waar wij op t werk zaken mee doen, i mijn ogen een echte vakman, zegt 80% van je originele (niet r134a) vullhoeveelheid aanhouden als je vult met r134a. Wel extra olie bijvullen.

Dat er 5 gram extra word gevuld is standaard procedure vam de airco machine.

De 120 gram die jij bedoelt is alleen bij een nieuwe pomp, en daar zit het vaak al in. Maw in principe zit de olie in je systeem.

In mijn ogen moet er iets meer koudemiddel in. Als het systeem eerder gebruikt is met r134a dan zou het standaard 5 gram extra olie afdoende moeten zijn.
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor w126560td » 17 jul 2016, 20:20

Syteeem heeft wel oude olie eruit gezogen, maar zoals ik begrijp blijft er altijd olie in het systeem zitten ondanks dat het syteem leeg wordt gezogen en op vacuüm wordt gezet??

900 gram koude middel is gevuld hoeveel zou ik nog moeten bijvullen ongeveer?
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor Bram Jansen » 17 jul 2016, 21:08

Ergens naast het plaatje voor onder de kap, naast de sluiting van de kap zit als het goed is een groen plaatje.
Daar staat op welk type gas en hoeveel gas erin moet.

Bij mij is dat bij een OM603 Diesel, 1 kg gas
De olie die ze bij het vullen gebruiken is volgens mij een fluor olie om een eventueel lek te kunnen opsporen met de bekende blauwe bril :grin: en tis maar een likkie.
Heb er nu drie keer bij gestaan en was drie keer het zelfde, de olie ging gewoon uit de losse pols.
Ik heb een lekkende verdamper dus moet de boel vervangen en weer laten vullen. :mrgreen:
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor Gerko » 17 jul 2016, 22:32

Er blijft idd olie in het systeem. Standaard procedure is uitgezogen olie plus 5ml er terug in. En meestal zo'n 5ml fluor om in de toekomst lekkage makkelijker op te sporen, zoals bram al zegt
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor w126560td » 14 jun 2017, 18:34

Ik wil even via een oude toppic een vraag stellen.

Motor om603 turbo dizel W126 type 2

Ik heb laats mijn aircopomp uitgebouwd en er kwam gas en lichtbruine olie uit de leidingen en nippels.



Hoe constateer ik nu hoeveel olie eruit is, of is 5ml bij het vullen weer voldoende. 120 ml is het totale dacht ik maar weet dit niet zeker. Kan ik ergens peilen pomp is los.?????
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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor Gerko » 14 jun 2017, 23:16

Nee dat weegt het airco apparaat normaal gesproken bij leeghalen. Nu zal het op de gok moeten. Ga geen 120 ml bijvullen, want draait je pomp vast (olieslag) dit omdat er dan samen met de olie die is achtergebleven totaal veel te veel olie in het systeem zit. Vraag maar advies aan degene die vult.

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Re: Airco bijgevuld met r134a en 5ml olie

Berichtdoor w126560td » 15 jun 2017, 01:37

Nee ik was ook niet van plan om 120ml bij te vullen. Wel had ik de nijging om alle olie eruit te halen en dan 120ml bij te vullen. Maar waar het aantal 120ml vandaan komt weet ik ook niet, dit is ooit geschreven door iemand of ik heb dit ergens gelezen zeker weten doe ik dit niet.

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