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motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 13 aug 2017, 22:17

beste forum leden..

mijn auto loopt koud als een beer..maar warm wordt de trekkracht minder..maar de laatste tijd slaat hij warm op lage toeren soms ff een klapje over.bij ca 800/1200rpm

bougiekabels beru ca 3kwart jaar oud.bougies ngk de goede idem.

onsteking vervroegen vertragen helpt niets..

alvast bd voor jullie feetback

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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor Neerven » 14 aug 2017, 08:39

Heb ik ook gehad, koud strak en warm geregeld een slag missen. Bij mij was de bobine de oorzaak.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 17 aug 2017, 22:19

was de bobine stuk? ,
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor Neerven » 18 aug 2017, 09:09

Stuk niet, want hij liep er nog op. Maar na 35 jaar was ie ook niet meer fris.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor turbopapa » 29 aug 2017, 00:38

Ook even "het stiftje" controleren boven in je verdelerkap.
als je de verdelerkap demonteerd zie je dat stiftje bovenin.
het kan ook nog zijn dat van de 8 stiftjes waar de rotor langs af draait deze wat ingevreten zijn.
een nieuwe verdelerkap is dan de beste oplossing.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 29 sep 2017, 09:21

bedankt voor jullie reacties.

het rare is het begon toen ik bij inlaat schutbord de vacuummodulator versnbak controleerde..en die is goed..

ik weet nu dat de bougie van cilinder schutbord dichtstbij de vacuĆ¼m aansluiting vet slaat..en na even 4000rpm draaien zelfs stopt met vonken..de andere kant cilinder schutbord volgt met zwart slaan en stoppen bij hogere toeren..

hoog olie verbruik was al bekend en alle bougies waren altijd al te zwart..

heb alle bougiekabels gemeten va de puntjes in verdelerkap alles gereinigd alles goed..bougies zijn jaar oud kabels idem beru.

wat mij opvalt is dat de carterventilatieslang in de lichtfilter kurkdroog is..

mijn vraag..is dit normaal? geen enkele vocht of vettigheid..en hoe maak ik de ventilatie schoon mocht die verstopt zitten?
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor Neerven » 29 sep 2017, 11:26

Olie verbruik kan ook aan je klepsteelrubbers liggen. Geef eens gas na een paar minuten stationair. Als ie dan behoorlijk rookt denk ik aan klepsteelrubbers.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor 126 » 29 sep 2017, 12:30

Had ik 2 weken terug ook,werd met de dag slechter.
Bobine stuk,heb er een andere opgezet en probleem opgelost. :!:
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 29 sep 2017, 15:20

denk dat het een winterklusje wordt

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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor 126 » 29 sep 2017, 18:37

Ach een bobine verwisselen is toch zo gedaan :?:
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 30 sep 2017, 09:14

klopt is zo gedaan haha..maar heb de auto va bijna sloop toestand weer opgebouwd..er is al een enorme waslijst gedaan..wat ik overigens erg leuk vind te doen..maar vele dingen maken op denduur veel geld ook..soms eve prioriteiten stellen.

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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor 126 » 30 sep 2017, 09:39

Haha ,herkenbaar ;)
Moet zelf ook beetje dimmen,wil veel maar gaat niet altijd :!: :roll:
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 04 okt 2017, 14:46

het valt mij trouwens nu ook op dat hoge toeren rustig kan..alleen als ik in de hoge toeren ook nog es flink gas geef gebeurt het dat er een bougie te nat wordt en het te hoge olie verbruik dus echt begint..weet niet of dit dan de klepsteelrubbers zijn de carter ontluchting of de zuigerveren..hij blaast in ieder geval compleet niet uit de olievuldop opening.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 21 okt 2017, 18:48

opgelost!! bougies die nat slaan etc..het was dus toch een slecht werkende bobine..ik vermoed te zwakke vonk..heb nu ook aardig meer vermogen.

iedereen bedankt voor het meedenken..
ps maar snap nog niet hoe een bobine minder kan werken?? dacht altijd stuk is niet meer werken?
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 21 okt 2017, 19:31

Over de werking van de bobine: bobine-defect-t16816.html#p170970
De bobine heeft spoelen van koperdraad met een heel dun isolatielaagje.
Alleen als een draad breekt doet hij het helemaal niet meer.
Maar het kan dus ook zo zijn dat het isolatielaagje beschadigd raakt.
Dan kan er ergens halverwege de spoel een kortsluiting ontstaan, de spoel heeft effectief niet meer het oorspronkelijk aantal windingen en daardoor neemt de opgewekte spanning af.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 22 okt 2017, 02:42

Mooi dat je dit met een kleine ingreep heb kunnen oplossen.
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Re: motor slaat alleen warm soms slagje over 500SEC type 1

Berichtdoor jwl » 10 nov 2017, 23:37

bedankt heer leeflang voor de goede uitleg,en ja richard ben er mooi blij mee!,
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