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toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Harold » 01 okt 2017, 13:47

Beste forumleden,

Maakt een 350SE veel minder toeren dan een 280SE of scheelt dat niet bijster veel? Wat het verbruik aangaat lijkt de voorkeur hier vooral uit te gaan naar de 280 en de 450, en niet zo naar de 350, valt mij op. Maar wat het aantal toeren betreft, daar kan ik nog niet zoveel over vinden. Hoor het daarom graag!

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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Patrick1 » 01 okt 2017, 14:22

voor zover ik weet bestaat er geen 350 en 450 in een W126
Wel een 380 en een 420. Zelf heb ik een 420 en mijn ouders een 280.
De 420 maakt ongeveer 900 minder toeren bij een snelheid van 120 dan de 280.
Het verbruik is nagenoeg gelijk.
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Bertorelli » 01 okt 2017, 17:02

Harold heeft een W116.

Maar wat Patrick al schrijft.
Een 6 cilinder maakt doorgaans meer toeren dan een 8 cilinder.
Al ligt de 350 wel dichter bij de 280 dan bij de 450.

Verbruik van die auto's van dezelfde generatie zal niet veel verschil maken.
Een 6 cilinder moet er tenslotte iets harder voor werken.

Zie ook: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W116
Of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W116
En wat uitgebreider op: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes- ... ureihe_116
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Vlim » 01 okt 2017, 18:19

Het zit hem vooral in het injectiesysteem. De eerste 350's met een D jetronic zuipen als een tempelier. De versie met K jetronic is een stuk zuiniger.
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 01 okt 2017, 19:09

De 280 heeft een differentieel met overbrenging 3,69 bij 120 km/u ligt het toerental tussen 3600 en 3700
De 350 heeft een differentieel met overbrenging 3,46 bij 120 km/u ligt het toerental tussen 3400 en 3500
De 450 heeft een differentieel met overbrenging 3,07 bij 120 km/u ligt het toerental tussen 3000 en 3100
De 6.9 heeft een differentieel met overbrenging 2,65 bij 120 km/u ligt het toerental tussen 2500 en 2600
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Harold » 01 okt 2017, 19:43

Dank!
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Bertorelli » 01 okt 2017, 23:12

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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor turbopapa » 04 okt 2017, 02:08

Of een 450 diff op een 280 plaatsen.

Is dat zo te wisselen ??
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor Patrick1 » 04 okt 2017, 10:37

Een diff. Kun je niet zomaar wisselen met een andere vertanding. Dan komt je motor vermogen tekort om de auto op snelheid te houden. Je zal merken dat je in een hogere versnelling in snelheid terugzakt en moet terugschakelen, waarna je weer snelheid maakt, maar vervolgens na opschakelen weer terugzakt door vermogenstekort.

Dit heeft te maken met de weerstand die je hebt van lucht, gewicht, rolweerstand. Etc. Er is een bepaalde hoeveelheid kracht nodig om dit in beweging te krijgen en te houden. Motorvermogen en diff. zijn hierbij op elkaar afgestemd.
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Re: toerenverschil 280 vs 350

Berichtdoor turbopapa » 05 okt 2017, 15:45

Dankjewel voor de reactie.
Alles bij elkaar had ik beter voor een V8 kunnen gaan.
( ik hou niet zo van die hoge toeren )
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