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Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Croess » 08 feb 2018, 20:56

Goede avond,

Na een tijdje probleemloos te hebben gereden, heb ik nu prijs.
Als ik de wagen koud start en er mee rij, is er geen probleem ongeacht de afstand die ik dan afleg.
Maar wanneer ik hem dan stil leg, om bv te tanken en vervolgens start krijg ik het piepend geluid.
Als ik gewoon op snelheid blijf hoor ik ook niets, het is alleen als ik terug schakel of stop en de toeren op ong 800a1000 terug vallen, en dan vertrek of gas geef komt het geluid.
Klinkt alsof de riem slipt, maar het geluid komt precies van de spinnekop of de middelste cilinders.
Verder bolt de auto perfect ook met het geluid???
Rij momenteel ook zonder accumulator, maar in begin dat ik deze had afgekoppeld was het geluid er niet.
Ik vermoed dat het iets met druk te maken heeft in het brandstof systeem of ga ik hier de mist in?

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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 08 feb 2018, 23:19

De accumulator houd niet alleen druk vast bij stilstaande motor, maar dempt ook drukpulsen tijdens rijden.
Het afwezig zijn van de accumulator kan met het geluid te maken hebben, ik zou zo snel mogelijk een accumulator terug monteren om schade aan het injectiesysteem te voorkomen.
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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Croess » 16 feb 2018, 23:49

Vandaag de accumulator terug geplaatst, maar zonder resultaat. Het piepend geluid blijft bij afremmen tôt stationaar toerental en dan terug vertrekken. Voor de rest hoor je het niet.
Nu verdenk ik de stuwschijf,deze is eentje voor LPG (telefoonschijf) ex LPG wagen. Zou het kunnen dat deze minder weegt dan een normale, en zo de schijf eventjes te dicht slaat en de benzine toevoer te ver afsluit?
Het zwart blokje boven de schijf zit er al terug op.
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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 17 feb 2018, 00:55

Is het hetzelfde geluid als in dit filmpje?

Dan is er denk ik niet veel aan te doen, dat geluid maken de injectoren nou eenmaal soms.
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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

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Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 18 feb 2018, 00:26

Heeft een 2800se niet een systeem om de brandstof af te sluiten ttijdens uitrollen met gas los?
Een klep die de stationaire lucht om de stuwschijf heen leidt, zodat de stuwschijf in rust ligt en er geen brandstof wordt ingespoten in deze situatie.
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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Croess » 19 feb 2018, 21:13

Het heeft wel wat weg van het geluid van de injectors, maar als het geluid zich voor doet is het niet continu. Het gaat van piep, piep bij weinig gas geven tot pieeeeeep bij veel gas en dan is het weg. (Ik kan het geluid niet anders uitleggen) :grin:
Miss dat het 1injector is die lawaai maakt elke keer hij inspuit?
Verzuipen lijkt me niet de oorzaak aangezien ik hem een tijde geleden op 1,5co heb afgesteld.
We zoeken geduldig verder. :eek:

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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 19 feb 2018, 21:30

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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 19 feb 2018, 23:41

Eerst heb je het over een piepend geluid bij afremmen, dan ga ik ervan uit dat je geen gas geeft, en de injectie in principe niet inspuit...
Nu heb je het over piepen bij gas geven, ik ben de draad even kwijt.
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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Croess » 20 feb 2018, 20:12

Dag Richard,

Het geluid doet zich voor als ik de koppeling intrap en de motor terug stationair draaid en dan terug gas geef om te vertrekken. Bij een beetje gas is het piep piep naarmate je meer gas geef is het pieeeeep tot ONG 4000tpm en dan is het weg. Wagen rijdt gewoon goed ook met het geluid.
Hoop dat het nu wat duidelijker is.

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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 20 feb 2018, 23:23

Zou zomaar kunnen, Hans.
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Re: Piepend geluid 280SE

Berichtdoor Croess » 21 feb 2018, 09:07

V-snaar is het niet, daar dacht ik ook eerst.
Er zit nog een taktventiel in.
Zal een een toertje doen door het af te koppelen.( stekker er af halen)
Bij deze een extra vraag, kan ik dan ook gewoon de lamdasonda verwijderen aangezien dit allemaal samen hangt?

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