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E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor RWijnhov » 25 jan 2019, 21:55

Lees net binnenkort bij iedere pomp verplicht E10. Hoe problematisch is dat voor mijn 500 uit 80?
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Erik450 » 25 jan 2019, 23:34

je kunt er altijd nog v power van shell in gooien, daar zit geen ethanol in. En in de huidige euro 95 brandstof zit ook al een klein percentage E10.
ik heb hem nu voor drie maand stilgezet met een tank vol V power, welke minder vocht ontwikkeld en minder gom resten achter laat in het injectie systeem..

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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Bayram » 25 jan 2019, 23:40

Een bron erbij zou wel zo handig zijn.
E10 is niet goed voor onze auto's.

Je kan beter Shell V-power, BP Ultimate of (de meeste) Super Plus 98 benzine gebruiken
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Erik450 » 25 jan 2019, 23:49

Hallo Bayram,

Er stond een tijdje terug een heel verhaal over de huidige brandstoffen in het tijdschrift moto73, die hadden het helemaal uitgezocht en er een mooi artikel over geschreven.
http://www.moto73.nl/2017/09/21/het-e10-dossier/
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Bayram » 25 jan 2019, 23:53

Bedankt voor de link!
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor mbsam » 26 jan 2019, 01:57

Vandaag officieel bekend gemaakt, vanaf 1 oktober komt de E10 ook in Nederland in de tanks van de pompstations
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Sieggy » 04 feb 2019, 23:36

https://www.shell.be/nl_be/motorists/shell-fuels.html

Benzine herkent u aan de ronde sticker, het getal na de E geeft het maximumpercentage bio-ethanol aan dat er in verwerkt mag worden.

Shell V-Power - E5 (Echter in Shell V-Power zit geen bio-ethanol)

Iemand een idee wat die E5 dan wel betekent?
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Bertorelli » 05 feb 2019, 13:03

Volgens mij is E5 ook voor benzines zónder Ethanol omdat er (nog) geen E0 code bestaat.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor mbsam » 05 feb 2019, 13:38

Klopt precies wat je schrijft.
Het cijfer geeft het maximum bijvoegingspercentage aan.
In het geval van Shell V power, BP ultimate 98 en Competition 100/102 is dit 0, bij de overige merken is er wel ethanol aan toegevoegd.
Dit geldt voor Nederland, in andere landen kan het zo zijn dat er wel ethanol aan toegevoegd is maar nooit meer dan het label aangeeft
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Lode96 » 10 feb 2019, 02:32

Ik vraag me eigenlijk af, wat zou je allemaal moeten aanpassen om onze auto's toch E10 verdraagzaam te kunnen maken?
Ik veronderstel spinnenkop, injector, benzine pomp en tank?
Of zou E10 ook invloed hebben op de zuigringen, kleppen en etc.?
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Crunchy » 10 feb 2019, 19:08

Ik rij nu al een jaar en +- 15.000 km met de goedkoopste e10 in mijn Ford Transit '92 2 liter carburateur.
Heb er echt geen last mee en het motor ontwerp dateert volgens mij nog van uit de jaren 70.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 10 feb 2019, 20:43

Waarschijnlijk moet alles van rubber en met rubber delen (membranen b.v.) vervangen moeten worden.
E10 schijnt er ook toe te kunnen leiden dat aluminium gaat oxideren.
Niet alleen de benzinepompen, brandstoffilter en spinnenkop, maar zelfs het motorblok van de meeste W126's is van aluminium.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor RVermeer » 07 apr 2019, 15:03

Ik heb 2 of 3 jaar geleden eens per ongeluk E10 getankt ergens in Rotterdam. Dat heette blue... of zoiets.
De auto reed er prima op. Het is bij die ene keer gebleven. Ik heb sindsdien geen problemen gehad.
Geen idee wat er gebeurd als je alleen maar E10 gebruikt.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor mbsam » 07 apr 2019, 15:47

Eenmalig E10 tanken kan geen kwaad in auto's die er niet voor zijn vrijgegeven, langdurig gebruik wel.
Mercedes heeft de auto's van na 1985 die voorzien zijn van een katalysator af fabriek vrijgegeven voor gebruik van E10 benzine.
Kijk eens op E10 checker. Nl.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor hans000 » 07 apr 2019, 17:32

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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor mbsam » 08 apr 2019, 14:41

Bedankt voor de aanvulling Hans.
Gr.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor MB280E » 10 apr 2019, 22:45

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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor mbsam » 12 apr 2019, 10:53

Klopt, Mercedes geeft aan dat dat kan
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Wie ben ik om hen tegen te spreken.
Ik geef geen advies om dit te tanken mocht u dit denken, ik schrijf alleen maar wat Mercedes mij verteld heeft bij navraag.
Neem het zekere voor het onzekere en tank het niet maar dat moet iedereen zelf weten.
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor RVermeer » 27 apr 2019, 11:28

Sinds de gasinstallatie eruit is, tank ik altijd euro95 (behalve die ene keer E10 dan). Daar zou zo'n 5% alcohol in zitten.
Als dit problemen zou geven, had ik dat dan niet al ergens aan moeten merken? En waaraan dan?
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Re: E10 brandstof en onze auto's

Berichtdoor Vlim » 27 apr 2019, 17:27

Zo ziet de tankvlotter na 5 jaar er uit.
Je hebt geen permissies om de bijlage(n)) in dit bericht te zien.
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