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Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 01 dec 2019, 15:55

Hallo iedereen,

Na meer dan 2 jaar stilstaan heb ik mijn SEC terug in dienst gesteld. Er zal een hoop werk aan zijn.

Mijn eerste probleem :

de kachelventilator doet niks. Ik heb de zekering gechecked (16) en die is OK. Ook wiebelen met het contactslot levert niets op. Wat is de correcte werkwijze voor het zoeken van de fout hier ?

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 01 dec 2019, 19:24

dat hangt er van af of je een climatronic hebt met een temperatuurwiel of verwarming met de beide tempeeratuurwielen.

in beide gevallen kun je wel testen of de ventilatormotor nog werkt door er direct (Gezekerd) 12 volt op te zetten.
ook kun je eerst met de hand proberen of de motor niet vast staat, of erg zwaar draait.
mogelijk zit er buiten de zekeringkast een losse zekering in een houder die voor de ventilator dient.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 01 dec 2019, 20:15

Het is de 'automatische' versie met 1 wieltje. Ik zou verwachten dat als de motor zelf vast zit dat de zekering dan doorbrandt. Bedoelt u daat er nóg een zekering is behalve de 25A nr 16 in de zekeringkast ?

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 02 dec 2019, 10:49

Dankjewel. Ik zal eens speuren. Kan ik checken of de ventilator los zit door enkel het handschoenkastje te verwijderen of moet ik hem daarvoor uitbouwen ?

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Vlim » 02 dec 2019, 13:49

Je kunt er langs onderen bij.

Onderste bekleding van dashboard in voetenruimte loshalen. Dan zie je de klep van het ventilatorhuis, ventilator kan er dan langs onder uit.

Zal waarschijnlijk de bedieningseenheid van de kachel wel zijn. Ventilator geeft niet vaak problemen.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 02 dec 2019, 19:41

Wel , de 'tweede' zekering in de buurt van de rempomp is bij mij onvindbaar. Volgende stap is kijken of de ventilator los zit, maar da's voor als het nog eens licht is als ik thuis kom.

Met de 'bedieningseenheid' bedoelen jullie het hele HVAC paneeltje met schakelaars en wieltje ? Dan hoor ik alvast eens bij rank of hij iets voorradig heeft. Er lijkt mij ook nog een stuurmodule te zijn.

Ten title van inlichting : behoort de ventilator te draaien met het contact in stand II maar zonder draaiende motor ? Ik heb er nooit op gelet, maar 't zou wel helpen.

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor ll-cool-gj » 02 dec 2019, 21:30

Ik heb het zelfde probleem gehad. Die zekering bij de rembekrachtiger zal ik straks een foto van maken. Was bij overigens niet het probleem. Heb de kachel ventilator moeten vervangen. Prima te doen overigens
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 03 dec 2019, 07:10

Goed, dankjewel.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 04 dec 2019, 16:57

Ik heb de ventilator maar uitgebouwd, en hij zit flink vast. Ik denk niet dat ik ga proberen hem terug gangbaar te maken, hij ziet er verschrikkelijk uit binnenin.

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor ll-cool-gj » 05 dec 2019, 20:50

Hier een link naar de foto, dit is van een sedan maar het ziet er zo uit.

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/eurot ... on_126.jpg
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 06 dec 2019, 10:40

Dankjewel voor de foto. Maar ik heb deze zekeringhouder niet. Ik kan hem althans niet vinden.

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor ll-cool-gj » 06 dec 2019, 21:19

Hier zit ie bij mij

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Vlim » 06 dec 2019, 23:18

Die is voor de achterruit verwarming als ik het me goed herinner.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 11 dec 2019, 10:15

De nieuwe doet het ook niet.

Even uit het blote hoofd : In het werkplaatshandboek (Even niet voirhanden) staat bij ik denk 50-180 of zo iets over 'extra zekering blower tot 8/86' of zo.
In ieder geval zal ik de multimeter maar eens aanslepen.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 11 dec 2019, 11:34

Close, het is 54-180 Installation of a separate fuse for the blower motor (up to 06/86).
De Duitse versie Separate Sicherung für Gebläsemotor einbauen (bis 06/86) heeft iets betere afbeeldingen.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Vlim » 11 dec 2019, 13:31

Ik meen me te herinneren dat die zekering een modificatie achteraf was. Dan is het mogelijk dat die modificatie niet bij alle auto's is doorgevoerd.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 11 dec 2019, 17:41

Nooit gezien...

Houder gesmolten, metaal intact. Zekering *was* nieuw !

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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 11 dec 2019, 19:06

Op zoek dus naar een keramische uitvoering, liefst weer met een koperen strip.
Daarvan kan de houder niet smelten.
Het wordt helaas steeds moeilijker die te vinden, de kunststof uitvoering is nou eenmaal goedkoper te fabriceren.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Frank117 » 11 dec 2019, 19:13

Dat is het gevolg van slecht contact, en dit door corrosie.
Er gaat 25 A door die zekering, slecht contact resulteert in nogal wat warmte bij die stoomsterkte.
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Re: Kachelventilator draait niet

Berichtdoor Peter R. » 12 dec 2019, 15:01

Het komt mij voor dat, als de ventilator 'los' zit en niet kortgesloten is, dit enkel kan als de stuurmodule geflambeerd is.

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