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LPG inbouwen

Specifieke zaken omtrent het rijden op LPG kunnen hier geplaatst worden zodat we alle zaken omtrent LPG hier verzameld hebben staan.

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LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor e.luijpers » 30 mei 2021, 10:19

Hallo allen,

Mijn W126 heeft vroeger op gas gereden.
Dit is eruit gehaald toen onze regering weer eens poen nodig had.
Ik zit eraan te denken om opnieuw gas in te laten bouwen.
Wie heeft hier ervaring mee en een goed, betrouwbaar adres hiervoor?

Alvast dank.
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor Japio » 30 mei 2021, 10:52

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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor Vlim » 30 mei 2021, 12:07

Hou er rekening mee dat kleppen stellen je hobby gaat worden. En daarna een koprevisie.
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor e.luijpers » 31 mei 2021, 07:28

Dank voor jullie reacties.
Ik vraag mij af of de voordelen groter zullen zijn dan de nadelen.
Motor loopt nu prima.
Ga ik me een bak ellende op de nek halen met gas? Zie opmerking Vlim.
Of ben ik uiteindelijk toch een stuk goedkoper uit in gebruik? Ik rij zo'n 7/8 duizend km per jaar met het oudje.
Zijn er nog meer voor-en/of nadelen?

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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 31 mei 2021, 13:42

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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor Japio » 31 mei 2021, 17:23

Ik overweeg ook gasinbouw (LPi), maar ik rijdt 15.000 p/jr en heb KE-jettronic met een kat en lambdasonde. Dus minder kans op backfireproblemen.
Met 7/8 K per jaar zou ik gewoon op benzine blijven rijden.
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor Vlim » 31 mei 2021, 18:55

Alles qua LPG is een slechte combinatie in een W126 V8.

Belangrijkste is een verdamper met voldoende capaciteit en een elektronisch gestuurde uitschakeling van de gastoevoer bij een gesloten gasklep/luchtweger.

Anders kun je een redelijk uitgebreide verzameling luchtwegers en stuwschijven aanleggen.

Persoonlijk heb ik LPG in een W126 altijd verschrikkelijk gevonden. De M103 kon er nog het beste tegen, met aangepaste gaskop.

Kun je hem nog beter uitrusten met Tesla techniek :mrgreen:
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor Vlim » 31 mei 2021, 21:44

Ik geloof niet dat ik ooit in een W126 op gas ga rijden.

Een inmiddels, en veel te vroeg, overleden clubgenoot uit de regio Stuttgart had echter wel goede ervaringen met het systeem wat ik beschreef. Werkte zelfs goed in een ML 55 AMG. Hij klaagde wel over de 117.961 motoren. Daar viel net iets te weinig te sturen door gebrek aan electronica. Vanaf de 963 had hij geen problemen, ik weet dat hij met dubbele verdampers werkte. In Duitsland reden ze ook wat sneller.
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Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 31 mei 2021, 22:31

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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor e.luijpers » 01 jun 2021, 21:53

Het is mij duidelijk.
Niet aan een goedlopend blok gaan prutsen met alle gevolgen van dien!
Goed is goed.

Wederom dank allen.
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor Job380se » 03 jun 2021, 08:28

En zo heb ik een W126 die perfect loopt op gas en helemaal niet op benzine ;) . Komend weekend maar eens aandacht aan besteden. Vermoedelijk de pomp vast na 8 jaar stilstand.
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor mbniels » 04 jun 2021, 23:05

Het blijft toch nog een uitdaging om weer een keer op LPG te gaan rijden. Ik wil nog een keer LPG injectie toevoegen op de m103. Ik heb nog een vialle LPG systeem hiervoor liggen, en een megasquirt ECU. Een triggerwiel, wat sensoren en een hoop tijd dan zou het moeten werken. Bij vialle LPI blijft de LPG to de injector vloeibaar (pomp in de tank) en wordt deze net voor de inlaatklep vernevelt.

Op LPG rijden (OMVL verdamper, terugkoppeling lambdasensor) beviel ooit wel aardig. Wel mooi om een restproduct weg te werken, iets minder uitstoot en ook geld overhouden wat je weer aan de auto kan besteden. Was ooit een beetje schrikken toen de benzinetank weer vol moest.

Alleen een OMVL verdamper is een beetje te goedkoop, dat moet je alleen laten inbouwen om de auto goedgekeurd te krijgen. Voeg daarna in ieder geval een lambda sensor toe met uitlezing zodat je een beetje in de gaten kan houden wat er gebeurt.

Zelf geeft ik dus niet zoveel om originaliteit en restwaarde.
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor mbniels » 07 jun 2021, 13:01

Hier staat tussen de banner plaatjes een redelijk bekend blok voor de V8 rijder

http://www.lpginbouwstation.nl/LPG&Diesel.html
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Re: LPG inbouwen

Berichtdoor msec » 18 jul 2021, 10:47

Dank voor deze uitwisseling!
Ik heb een 500SE met M117.965 5,0 liter V8 motor. Zoals ik de discussie nu lees, lijken de nadelen van het installeren van een LPG installatie hoger dan de voordelen bij maximaal 10.000 km per jaar....
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