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Berichtdoor Maximizer » 08 sep 2010, 19:02

ik heb vorig jaar de airco laten retro-fitten na het monteren van een nieuwe pomp en cooler en heb dit voorjaar het schakelventiel voor de fan laten wisselen en de airco laten servicen
nu is mijn vraag hoe koud zou hij moeten worden?
ik vind hem nl niet ijskoud maar wel koel
als ik in mijn bedrijfsbus de airco aanzet dan krijg ik het gewoon koud en dat heb ik in de Benz niet
het betreft trouwens een 500SEL uit 83
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Re: airco

Berichtdoor Jeff_560_SEL » 08 sep 2010, 19:07

Hij moet echt ijskoud worden

de mijne is nu wel ijskoud, hij lekte op de pomp en op de nieuwe vulnippels ( laten ombouwen van R12 naar R134a)

Is hij wel goed afgevuld? \
Misschien lekt de jouwe ook wel op de ventielen ( vulnippels) en is er nu onvoldoende druk en draait de aircopomp nu niet, dan krijg je alleen rijwind
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Re: airco

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 08 sep 2010, 20:25

Mijn airco heb ik in Juli met R413a laten vullen, waar een beetje fluor bijgedaan is, zodat je een lekkage kunt opsporen.
We zijn ermee naar Italiƫ geweest en hij koelde perfect.
Hoe koud hij kan worden weet ik eigenlijk niet, omdat ik in principe de airco maximaal 5 graden koeler zet dan de buitentemperatuur. Daarmee voorkom je een chronische verkoudheid.
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Re: airco

Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 08 sep 2010, 21:13

Je kunt het met een temparatuur meter gewoon meten.

Airco helemaal op koud instellen en op de middenrooster, temparatuurmeter in het rooster
hangen, deuren dicht en dan moet de temp. meter tussen de 5 en 10 graden aangeven
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Re: airco

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 08 sep 2010, 21:22

Hans, het is R 413a een nieuw gas dat de airco-slangen niet aantast.

(Goed opgemerkt mijn schrijffout, heb het gecorrigeerd)
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Re: airco

Berichtdoor VolvWil » 08 sep 2010, 23:36

De weg des levens is zwaar maar in een W126 zeer goed uit te houden!
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Berichtdoor Panzerkampfwagen » 09 sep 2010, 07:02

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Re: airco

Berichtdoor Nicow126 » 09 sep 2010, 12:54

De mijne lekt nu ook aan de pomp (compressor) aan de voorkant van de poelie, ben er niet blij mee,heeft iemand zo iets al laten repareren of moet er altijd een nieuwe pomp in,het is een V8.

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Re: airco

Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 09 sep 2010, 13:01

Ligt er aan wat voor pomp je hebt, de oudere hebben zoals ik het kan zien, is
een pomp die uit elkaar kan en waar losse delen ( ook pakkingen en keerringen) voor
te bestellen zijn

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Re: airco

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Re: airco

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Re: airco

Berichtdoor DeKramer » 09 sep 2010, 23:12

Een airco draait ongeacht het type gas op 0 graden celcius (freon temperatuur), met een delta T van 10 graden over de koeler zal je ongeveer een uitblaastemperatuur van van 10 graden moeten halen.
dit is naruurlijk afhankelijk van de aangezogen luchttemperatuur.

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Re: airco

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 10 sep 2010, 08:48

Het oude R12 gas kan zo omgewisseld worden voor het nieuwe R413a gas, daar zijn geen aanpassingen voor nodig.
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Re: airco

Berichtdoor Binsbergen » 10 sep 2010, 11:53

Volgens mij kan je niet zomaar omwisselen
Heb het zelf geprobeerd en dat ging niet goed (bij een oude amerikaan)
Ook willen de "goede" aircobedrijven er niet aan beginnen om alleen een ander koelmiddel te gebruiken zonder aanpassing.

Je rubbers / pakkingen in het aircosysteem kunnen niet zo goed tegen het "nieuwe" koelmiddel
Je zou dan de installatie om moeten laten bouwen (alle pakkingen etc worden dan vervangen en de pomp wordt aangepast)

Je kan het oude koelmiddel vaak nog wel laten vullen bij landbouwmechanisatiebedrijven.
In landbouwvoertuigen mag nog het oude koelmiddel gebruikt worden, vandaar.
Altijd leuk... Een type 1 500 met een 300pk 560 ECE motor.
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Berichtdoor Vlieger » 10 sep 2010, 17:14

binsbergen, het verschil zit nu net in R134a en R413a.
De laatste, is speciaal ontwikkeld zodat bij de oudere wagens de rubberslangen niet aangetast worden.
Dit is gedaan door een erkend Airco bedrijf.
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Berichtdoor Panzerkampfwagen » 10 sep 2010, 17:44

Dat R413a zit ook in de airco in me slaapkamer,dus word wel voor meerdere dingen gebruikt..
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