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Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Felix » 31 mei 2011, 20:17

Afgelopen vrijdag de airco van de 500SEL omgebouwd naar R134a. Nadat er het afgelopen jaar al 2 aircopompen stuk zijn gegaan, wilde ik geen gebruikte meer kopen, dus op zoek naar een nieuwe !

Heb op Ebay een nieuwe DENSO pomp gekocht, geinformeerd bij de verkoper of deze wel geschikt was voor R134a.

Nieuwe filter/droger gekocht (kost maar 15 euro van HELLA) een nieuwe onderdruk schakelaar en een nieuwe temp schakelaar op de filter/droger.

LET OP: alle rubbers in je systeem vervangen voor groene, deze zijn geschikt voor R134a, dit is wel even een klusje....... fluor erin, gas erin en gaan. WERKT PERFECT!!

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor DeKramer » 31 mei 2011, 21:16

hallo Felix, heb je eerst het systeem gevacumeerd voor dat je gas gevuld hebt?

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Japio » 07 jun 2011, 20:50

Hallo Felix (hoop dat je weer wakker bent),

welke ringen moet je dan allemaal vervangen?
Ik neem aan ook slangen of is dat allemaal metaal?

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Felix » 07 jun 2011, 22:32

@dekramer: Ja eerst gevacumeerd, op dichtheid getest ( behoud van vacuüm), gevuld en daarna alle verbindingen weer gecontroleerd met lekspray.

@Japio, slangen kan je behouden, wel goed doorspoelen en zeer nauwkeurig schoonmaken en drogen!!! Een systeem op R134a draait op andere olie en de oude moet allemaal uit de slangen etc. Tussen alle verbindingen zitten rubbers die vervangen dienen te worden!
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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Japio » 07 jun 2011, 22:42

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Gelder » 07 jun 2011, 22:43

Hi Felix,

Goed verhaal, ik krijg ook zin om het eens grondig aan te pakken. Mag ik vragen wat je al met al kwijt was aan onderdelen voor de hele klus?

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 07 jun 2011, 23:23

ik kan wel eens een setje aanmaken met plaatjes waar alle ringen enzo horen en een mooie set prijs maken voor een 8 en een 6 cilinder
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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Japio » 08 jun 2011, 08:30

Dat zou leuk zijn! :silly:
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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Felix » 08 jun 2011, 09:20

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Pena » 08 jun 2011, 21:57

If it isn't b l o w n, it sucks.
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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 08 jun 2011, 22:32

uiteraard mogen we de 5 cilinders en de diesels niet vergeten
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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Pena » 09 jun 2011, 22:40

Hoi Marco,

Hier een plaatje dat het dichtste bij mijn 300SD (geregelde airco) komt.

airco_300SD.jpg

Zal kijken of ik een lijstje kan maken van alle ringetjes.

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Bloodnose » 19 jun 2011, 14:47

Hoi allemaal,

Aangezien hier het topic Airco toch al open staat de volgende vraag;

Ik heb vorig jaar bij een airco specialist in Breda mijn systeem laten vullen met R416A zonder dat het systeem daarvoor is omgebouwd met allerlei rubbers etc.. Het systeem koelt goed en vertoonde geen problemen anders dan dat toch al bleek dat mijn aircopomp lek is. Met kleurstof in het gas heb ik met eigen ogen kunnen zien dat de pomp aan vervanging/revisie toe is.
Dit bedrijf vertelde mij dat het beter is een nieuwe pomp, a + 800 euro in te bouwen dan een gereviseerde omdat de houdbaarheid van gereviseerde pompen vaak veel korter is dan een nieuwe.

Mijn vragen;
1. Kan men ongestraft R416A in een oud systeem gebruiken zonder dat er een reactie olie/gas ontstaat die later de zaak weer verziekt?
2. Nu ik toch toe ben aan een nieuwe pomp is hat dan raadzaam om gelijk over naar R134A te gaan of kan ik bij R416a blijven zodat ik niet ook alle andere rubbers/slangen hoef te vervangen?
3. Zijn die Denso pompen de originele pompen die MB ook gebruikt zoals de Ebay shop claimt?

Jammer dat de pompen waarnaar Felix's link naar verwijst 150 dollar duurder zijn geworden.


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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 19 jun 2011, 18:27

Ik heb laatst voor een 500SE ´86 een gereviseerde pomp en droger voor rond
de 400 euro met 2 jaar garantie aangeschaft. Zag er prima en als nieuw
uit.

Lijkt me het proberen waard

grt

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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Japio » 08 jul 2011, 22:06

Ik heb afgelopen maandag mijn pomp laten reviseren en afvullen voor € 470,- met 2 jaar garantie.
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Re: Airco met nieuwe pomp omgebouwd naar R134a

Berichtdoor Mus » 01 aug 2011, 02:07

Gewoon R12 erin laten blazen. Werkt het beste.
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