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Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 26 jan 2017, 13:13

Uitelkaar gehaald, gerepareerd, in elkaar gezet!

Mijn ventiel, koude motor 750 toeren als vergelijk genomen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHLdRJN ... e=youtu.be


Gerepareerde ventiel, van iemand anders, koude motor 750 toeren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdH7Qsz ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 26 jan 2017, 17:59

Filmpje 1 heb ik als vergelijk met mijn ventiel!
Filmpje 2 is het ventiel helemaal uit elkaar geweest, tot en met het rubberen membraan, en weer gerepareerd!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 26 jan 2017, 20:27

Ik haal hem helemaal uitelkaar, controleer het membraan en/of vervang deze als deze stuk is! Onder het membraan zit koolaanslag, deze wordt verwijderd! Hierna zet ik hem weer in elkaar!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor TeunBong » 26 jan 2017, 23:15

Zal je een hoop mensen mee kunnen helpen denk ik Robby.
Dit is een stappenmotor type 2, kan dat ik met type 1?
Wat is het verschil eigenlijk?
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 26 jan 2017, 23:27

Ik weet ook t verschil niet tussen de types!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Basjeva » 27 jan 2017, 01:24

Ziet er goed uit Rob!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 27 jan 2017, 01:38

Dank je, is een moeilijke klus!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Balboa » 27 jan 2017, 11:01

Zo, als dat voor een type 1 ook kan, heb ik er nog waarschijnlijk wel eentje liggen die je mag hebben om te "oefenen". Hij is nu stuk, dus erger wordt het niet ;)

Moet ff kijken waar die ligt. Is voor een 500 type 1.
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 27 jan 2017, 11:45

stappenmotor.png
Deze wordt afgesloten met een losse ring, ik heb deze nog nooit gehad!

Als de spoel is doorgebrand kun je repareren vergeten! Dat geldt ook voor relais!

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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor TeunBong » 27 jan 2017, 12:45

Wellicht heeft Leeflang nog wat info er het verschil tussen de 2 types? :whistle:
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 27 jan 2017, 13:35

Ben nieuwsgierig, volgens mij zit er alleen verschil in de aansturing!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 27 jan 2017, 14:16

Motoren 116.963 en 117.963, geen membraan maar een zuigertje (2):
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Motoren 116.965, 117.965 en 117.968, wel een membraan (88):
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De werking van die twee is vergelijkbaar.
De uitvoering, werkspanning en stroomsterkte verschillen.

Bij de 300's is de werking anders, met een draaiende klep (8).

Motoren 103.941 en 103.981:
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 27 jan 2017, 14:27

Ik zie dat type één 1as heeft en type twee 2.
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor rojo124 » 27 jan 2017, 20:10

Weet iemand waar voor de stelschroef nr7 dient bij de IACV voor de M103 motor (laatste plaatje)?
Om iets te verstellen zou je zeggen...maar kun je daar het toerental mee wijzigen?

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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 28 jan 2017, 02:03

We leven in Nederland, of in ieder geval de meesten van ons in het Nederlandse taalgebied, je mag het dus een STRK (stationair toerental regel klep) noemen :ugeek:

7 is niet echt een stelschroef, het heet aanslag.
Ik denk niet dat je daarmee iets kunt wijzigen.
De klep moet (op de tekening) linksom draaien om het toerental te verhogen, als de tekening klopt kan de schroef niet zover ingedraaid worden dat er een opening ontstaat, misschien kan hij wel zover uitgedraaid worden dat er een opening ontstaat aan de onderkant, maar dan zou de klep niet meer goed werken, om het toerental te verhogen zal het systeem de klep linksom draaien, maar dat zou dan juist resulteren in een kleinere opening en dus een lager toerental.
Bovendien is het niet de bedoeling dat je er iets aan gaat wijzigen, de elektronica zal de klep zo proberen aan te sturen dat het - in de elektronica vastgelegde - gewenste toerental wordt bereikt.
Als dat niet lukt moet je de oorzaak opsporen (defecte elektronica, defecte regel klep, vacuüm lek) en niet het verschijnsel gaan bestrijden.
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stationair toerental regel klep

Berichtdoor Robby » 29 jan 2017, 18:53

Geopende stationair toerental regel klep!
Je hebt geen permissies om de bijlage(n)) in dit bericht te zien.
Als je bang bent om fouten te maken, zul je nooit iets leren!!!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor MercedesBert » 31 jan 2017, 11:08

Geweldig Robby,
Dank voor het repareren, het toerental staat weer mooi op ong. 700

Ik stuur je binnenkort ook nog wat andere dingen ter reparatie. :handgestures-thumbup:
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor TeunBong » 26 feb 2017, 10:05

Als ik het goed begrijp is alleen de stappenmotor type 2 te repareren.
Zou dan mooi zijn als je een type 2 in een type 1 kan plaatsen.
Aangezien er op beide typen sigaren slechts een plus en min aan is te sluiten lijkt het mij niet zo ingewikkeld deze uit te wisselen toch? Behoudens wellicht de stand van de rubbers.
Zal wellicht alleen een andere aansturingsspanning zijn?
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor Robby » 01 maart 2017, 11:47

Gewoon uitproberen, wat kan er mis gaan, het is allebei 12V en het is maar een elektromagneet die wordt aangestuurd dus volgens mij kun je niets overbelasten!
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Re: Reparatie van Idle air control valve!

Berichtdoor TeunBong » 01 maart 2017, 11:54

Wellicht heb je gelijk maar is zonde als je leerlauf kapot gaat door een bijv hogere weerstand.
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