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Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor RACK » 17 aug 2010, 16:26

Hallo allemaal,

Ik was zaterdag weer eens gezellig in Zutphen en Hans heeft even in mijn auto gereden. Het viel hem op dat de bak pas laat overschakelt, namelijk bij ca 2200 toeren.

Dit gebeurt echter alleen bij een nog niet volledig warme motor. Als mijn motor wel helemaal warm is en ik heb alle versnellingen een keer gehad schakelt de bak veel eerder, namelijk bij ca 1500 toeren.

Voordat ik mijn auto kocht ben ik ook een keer gaan proefrijden met een andere 560SEL uit '90. De verkoper (Marco Hof van www.500e.nl) vertelde mij toen ook dat bij een koude motor de bak later schakelt dan bij een warme.

Hans herkende dit verhaal niet en daarom stel ik de vraag hier nog maar eens:

Is dit normaal?
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor MWhite » 17 aug 2010, 16:52

ik heb dit bij mijn 116 ook is ook een V8
de 126 6cil zal ik er ook is op letten
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor Jeff_560_SEL » 17 aug 2010, 17:09

Hey Ronald

Hans heeft dit ook al eens tegen mij gezegd dat de mijne wat laat schakelde.
Dat was dan wel nadat de auto een tijdje op de brug had gestaan

Ik zal er eens op letten bij welke toeren hij schakeld , koud en warm
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor Panzerkampfwagen » 17 aug 2010, 17:15

soms heb ik het alleen met koude motor/baK dat de 2e naar 3e versnelling,eenmalig, iets later gaat,dus eenmalig bij zo'n 1800 toeren.

Dit is niet altijd, meestal schakeld de bak netjes zoals het moet,ook met koude motor/bak
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor Frank380 » 18 aug 2010, 00:25

hoi, mijn benz380se schakelt altijd warm of koud rond de 1500 toeren tenzij ik gaspedaal dieper intrap dan schakelt hij natuurlijk later.ik zou me maar niet zo veel zorgen over maken zolang die soepel schakelt en vlot op en terug schakelt zal er weinig aan de hand zijn.
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 18 aug 2010, 16:50

Het later schakelen van een koude automaat is normaal.
Als de warme automaat ook laat schakelt, is dit te verstellen met de gasstang achter het luchtfilter.
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor RACK » 18 aug 2010, 22:35

Dank voor jullie reacties. Dan stop ik nu me zorgen te maken want als alles warm is schakelt de bak heerlijk en soepel.
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor CordeJong » 19 aug 2010, 22:44

Het latere schakelen bij een koude motor want daarom is het is normaal,word ook zo door een tussenstuk in de bowdenkabel zo geregeld.
Bij die auto's waar dat niet zo is geen zorg want die hebben dat dan nog niet,het heeft namelijk te maken met ja of nee een catalysator.
Om de catalysator zo snel mogelijk op te warmen worden tijdens de opwarmfase vacuĆ¼m gestuurd de schakel punten verhoogd en daardoor het toerental zodat de cat. eerder opwarmt en gaat werken.
Dus beide hebben gelijk er zijn er die koud en warm gelijk schakelen en er zijn er die koud later schakelen.
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor Panzerkampfwagen » 20 aug 2010, 11:26

Mijn SEC heeft orgineel een katalysator gemonteerd, toch heb ik geen hogere/latere schakelmomenten met koude motor.
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor CordeJong » 20 aug 2010, 13:39

Als ik je avatar bekijk klopt dat ook het is een S klasse voor mopf dan zijn de catalysatoren achteraf montage
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor Panzerkampfwagen » 20 aug 2010, 20:45

niet achteraf hoor, de SEC is ingevoerd uit japan ,die hebben de uitlaat met enkele pijp en orgineel kat, net zoals USA??
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Re: Schakelmoment (bij welk toerental)

Berichtdoor CordeJong » 20 aug 2010, 22:31

Ja dat zie ik zo natuurlijk niet ;) toen hadden ze in ieder geval de vacuumregeling voor uitgetseld schakelen bij koude motor nog niet.
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