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Berichtdoor Bazeman » 22 dec 2008, 11:55

Hallo,

Op het oude forum ben ik een keer een artikel tegen gekomen over het vervangen of schoonmaken van een soort plastic buisje met een veertje erin wat het doorslippen van de versnellingsbak kon verhelpen. Er stond ook een MB nummer bij. Heeft iemand deze info nog??? Het zou heel makelijk vervangen te zijn als de versnellingsbak olie ververst wordt en het oliefilter verwijderd is.

Ik heb een amerikaanse 560SEC waarbij regelmatig de bak doorslipt van het schakelen van 2 naar 3. Ook heb ik de laatste tijd als ik 's morgens weg rij het probleem dat er geen koppeling is met de achteras. Je voelt wel dat de versnelling inschakeld maar hij brengt de kracht niet over op de achterwielen. Pas als je voorzichtig gas bijgeeft voel je dat de aandrijving aanslaat op de wielen. Ontstaat dit probleem in de versnellingsbak of in de slipkoppeling in de achteras???

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Ronno » 22 dec 2008, 13:16

Hi ,

Bij je achteras zit in ieder geval geen slip koppeling ,dit heet het differentiaal.

De problemen komen echt uit je bak vandaan.

Voor verdere kennis van de bak ben je afhankelijk van mede forumers ,Ik heb een schakelbak.

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor SilverstarW126 » 22 dec 2008, 20:40

Zo'n ding heet in het engels B2 piston.

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor onclebenz » 23 dec 2008, 13:09

Wat vaker hierbij wil helpen is de olie van de bak te vernieuwen inclusief filter.Je kunt het aan de olie zien en ruiken of hij verbrand is. Daarbij zou ikeerst eens peilen. Mischien zit er te weinig of de verkeerde in. Succes ermee groetjes en beste kerstwensen uit het zuiden van Ron
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Cross500 » 30 dec 2008, 00:28

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Cross500 » 04 feb 2009, 00:03

ja , het beeldmateriaal is gevonden... hierbij wat foto's, hoop dat het één en ander duidelijker maakt.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor gerjmooi » 22 feb 2009, 01:19

ik heb vandaag dit nieuwe setje geplaatst tevens ook olie en filter van versnellings bak vervangen en schakeld weer als nieuwe voorheen schakelde de bak met verhoogd toerental van 2 naar 3.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Cross500 » 22 feb 2009, 02:03

goed om te horen .. mag ik vragen welke ATF olie je hebt gebruikt en waar je het oliefilter hebt gehaald.. er zijn ook imitaties te vinden op bijvoorbeeld ebay.de ... heb je ook pakking van deksel vervangen ?
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor gerjmooi » 22 feb 2009, 17:49

ATF decro 2 kroon olie
het filer en setje bij de Mercedes dealer gehaald ook nieuwe pakking maar deze was niet de juiste dus heb de oude weer gemonteerd.

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Buggymen » 22 feb 2009, 21:14

Ff een vraag : Is noodzakelijk om de olie van de versnellingsbak af te laten lopen om dit onderdeel te vervangen.
Bij mij is net 3000 km geleden vervangen incl. filter.
Ik heb ook het probleem dat er af en toe slip optreed van de 2de naar de 3de versnelling.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor gerjmooi » 24 feb 2009, 22:09

ja de olie moet er af maar als deze net vervangen is kun je die wel weer gebruiken
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Ronno » 24 feb 2009, 23:00

Wel schoon houden die olie!! vuil is een killer voor je bak.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor RobertP » 01 maart 2009, 16:05

Hoi allemaal,

Ook zo een probleem gehad! Gisteren heb ik in de hobbyschuur van Hans en Danker alles wat hieronder beschreven staat gedaan - inclusief vervangen van B2 piston, wat overigens bij de MB dealer "drukstift" heet. Mijn oude was nog niet slecht na 118000 km op de teller. Ik dacht: als ik al olie ga vervangen en alles al open staat, dan doe ik dit ook. Het kost ook bijna niets: 3,91 ex btw. Hans heeft me geholpen. Motor loopt nu als zonnetje. Echte aanrader voor de mensen met dit probleem. Duurt 3 uur en het is leuk om te doen!

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Lacky » 16 maart 2009, 09:38

rode ATF (a) olie kost echt wel meer dan 3,91 ex.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Dirk » 16 maart 2009, 09:45

Robert bedoelt niet de olie maar de piston, oftewel de drukstifft.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor RobertP » 16 maart 2009, 11:47

Olie was inderdaad duurder. Jij hebt wel 6 liter ATF olie nodig, die dacht ik bijna 60 euro kost. Ik heb direct ook de nieuwe pakking (12 euro) geplaatst en de drukstifft vervangen. Drukstifft kost inderdaad 3,91 ex.

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor Maximizer » 17 apr 2009, 20:43

is die drukstift voor elke automatenbak hetzelfde?
ik heb een 500SEL uit 83, net gehaald en ik ga hem direct alle olie en filters vervangen
dus ik dacht dit doe ik dan ook gelijk!
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Berichtdoor Maarcedes » 18 apr 2009, 20:24

ik heb me laten vertellen dat die drukstift een aftermarkt product is en er niet standaard in zit......
tenminste dat zeiden ze bij ATR in montfoort nadat ik ze dat onderdeelnummer doorgegeven had.
als hij door slijtage te zacht schakelt kan je er zo'n stift inzetten om de druk te verhogen en hem harder te laten schakelen.
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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor KeesV8je » 18 apr 2009, 20:37

als het after markt is, wat doet het dan in orginele MB verpakking??
staat ook op EPC bij de dealer.zit gewoon in elke aut.bak van MB.

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Re:Slippende versnellingsbak

Berichtdoor RobertP » 20 apr 2009, 20:19

Ik weet niet of de drukstift hetzelfde is in alle modellen. Zijn de versnellingsbakken in 280SE 500 gelijk? Ik heb alle onderdelen bij de Mercedes dealer in Gouda gekocht. De pakking is door de magazijnmedewerker aan mijn aangeboden. Hij heeft dat uitgezocht op basis van het chassisnummer. Kost niet echt veel en als je de bak al open doet dan is het beter om dit ook te vervangen. Soms is de rubber uitgedroogd en/of gebroken en dan neemt de kans op de lekkage toe.

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