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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor OpUrk » 11 feb 2011, 12:41

Toen ik pas mijn 500SE had, wilde hij 's morgens bij een koude start vaak een lichte tik in de motor laten horen. Deze verdween snel en dus een hydraulische klepstoter die even te weinig olie had. Vorige maand heb ik de auto een verse oliebeurt gedaan met een vol synthetisch met als gevolg helemaal geen getik meer. De motor loopt momenteel ook bijzonder goed en laat ook nauwelijks olieverbruik zien.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 11 feb 2011, 17:57

oke,dat betekent dus,dat vol-synthetisch 10W40 prima erin kan!
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor OpUrk » 11 feb 2011, 19:22

Ja hoor, wel deze dan blijven gebruiken en niet shoppen van oliesoorten.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Madcat » 12 feb 2011, 21:39

mij vertelde de mercedesmonteur EN de motorenreviseur dat ik in t oude beestje beter volsynthetische olie kon gooien omdat deze de slijtage beter tegengaat vollsynth hecht beter op en tussen de metalen waardoor hij beter gesmeerd wordt, ik volg dus de adviesen van deze twee heren (die er al jaren ervaring en verstand van hebben) en gooi er na de nokkenaswissel n volsynthetische olie op teflonbasis (wat ook wordt gebuikt in de "oude beestjes" in de racewereld.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Vlim » 12 feb 2011, 22:39

Sterkte. Betalen deze specialisten ook de schade aan je motor als het misgaat?

Stel ze deze simpele vraag en bekijk dan hun reactie :)
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Madcat » 12 feb 2011, 22:59

Groeten Ron.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor OpUrk » 12 feb 2011, 23:13

Hoe verklaar je het niet meer tikken van de motor? Voor deze oudjes lijkt volsynthetisch een goede olie. Hij draait er nu lekker op, geen centje pijn :lol:
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor DeKramer » 12 feb 2011, 23:30

Waarom zou je nu toch dure vol syntheet in je motor gooien, als hij altijd al op half syntheet heeft gedraaid.
welk voordeel denk je hier bij te halen?
Ik denk dat het bovendien alleen maar nadelen oplevert in de toekomst voorwat betreft het loskomen van vervuiling en lekkage door keerringen en o- ringen die gaan oplossen.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Vlieger » 13 feb 2011, 00:25

Toen deze motoren ontwikkeld werden, was er geen vol synthetische olie.
Wat voor onze motoren belangrijk is, is de dikte van de olie.
Dus gewoon 10W40 of 15W40 erin, daar zijn de motoren op ontwikkeld.

Bovendien is de vol synthetische olie veel duurder dan de minerale olie.

De vol synthetische olie heeft zoveel toevoegingen, die voor onze motoren minder geschikt zijn, waardoor ze meestal meer olie gaan verbruiken, dan met de " ouderwetse" olie.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Vlim » 13 feb 2011, 02:45

Het is net als hoge snelheidsbanden onder een Lada. Het idee is leuk, de Lada rijdt er niet slechter op, maar het is weggegooid geld.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Madcat » 13 feb 2011, 03:27

Groeten Ron.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Wimada » 13 feb 2011, 11:06

Je praat ook over gereviseerde motoren toch?
Likt mij dat er dan keerringen inzitten die er
misschien wel tegen kunnen .
en motoren die brandschoon zijn van binnen.
Ken iemand die het ook had gedaan en die hoorde na een hele poos steeds meer bijgeluiden
uit de motor komen, en heeft er toen maar Slick 50 ingegooid om volgens hem de speling
weer op te vullen.Die motor was overigens niet gereviseerd.

Maar als je er een goed gevoel bij hebt gewoon doen. 8-)

we kunnen dan na een tijd denk ik de ervaring delen.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor DeKramer » 13 feb 2011, 12:12

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 13 feb 2011, 19:50

wel interessant dit...want nu blijkt weer dat er niet zomaar volsynthetisch in kan...
misschien weet hans van de hobbyschuur dit??

blijf de gesprekken wel interessant vinden....en blijf het volgen...totdat ik ook zeker weet wat erin mijn auto kan,en moet.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Dennis K » 13 feb 2011, 20:04

ik vind het ook zeer boeiend! wel vreemd dat de meningen zo verdelen!
trouwens in de hobbyhut wordt minerale olie geadviseerd.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Madcat » 13 feb 2011, 20:35

Groeten Ron.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 13 feb 2011, 21:20

kan ik hieruit concluderen,dat er gewoon minerale olie in moet hans?
en dan 10W40,of 15W40 maakt niet heel veel uit?
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Berichtdoor Madcat » 13 feb 2011, 21:27

Groeten Ron.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor DeKramer » 13 feb 2011, 22:43

Iedereen is natuurlijk vrij om te doen wat hij wil, maar ik denk maar zo als je Benz het al 2 of 3 ton heeft vol gehouden op bv 10w40 half syntheet, waarom dan nog over stappen op vol syntheet.
Als je nou zoals john prins een volledige revisie laat uitvoeren, dan zou je kunnen overwegen om over te stappen op vol syntheet.
Ik heb in de dagelijkse praktijk meegemaakt dat bij het overstappen naar een synthetische olie in een grote koelcompressor (maatje grote scheepsmotor) na een week de olie er aan alle kanten uitzeek.
Ron, op de site waarna jij verwijst staat het volgende;

The fact is this: the functions of additives blended for specific characteristics can be offset when oils with different additive packages are put together. For optimal performance, it is better to use the same oil throughout.

en dan bedoel ik met name de laatste regel.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 17 feb 2011, 00:04

dus de viscositeit is nog niet heel erg van belang, 10W40 en 15W40 kan allebei....
maar volsyntethisch is dus funest voor je pakkingen etc.
dus MINERALE olie!

people,correct me if i'm wrong....dit is nu puur mijn bevinding,op alles wat ik nu gelezen en gehoord heb.
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