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motor olie

Berichtdoor jbremix » 09 feb 2011, 12:48

Ik heb mijn 300SE W126 nu zo'n half jaar en heb er +/- 4500 km mee gereden.
Volgens mijn peilstok is het tijd om wat olie bij te gaan vullen. Ik heb al diverse toppics gelezen over het onderwerp "motor olie"....maar ik zit met de volgende vraag:

Ik weet niet wat voor motor olie er op dit moment in zit...mineraal, synthetisch of half synthetisch.
Kan ik ongestraft minerale 10W40 bijvullen of is het verstandig om eerst olie te verversen ?
En dan schoon te beginnen met minerale olie ?
M.a.w. is mixen van mineraal, synthetisch en/of half synthetisch 'schadelijk'....?

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Pointer16 » 09 feb 2011, 12:58

Wanneer is de laatste verversing geweest?

Als je dat niet weet zou ik zo wie zo filter + olie wisselen.

Verder ben ik persoonlijk geen voorstander van mengen van olieen van verschillende viscositeiten of Mineraal en (Semi)-syntetisch. Merken door elkaar van de zelfde viscositeit heb ik minder moeite mee.
De discussie van welke olie het beste is meng ik me niet in "das ieder voor zich"

Ik zou zeggen gewoon alles verversen (incl filter) dan weet je iig wat er inzit.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor jbremix » 09 feb 2011, 13:06

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 09 feb 2011, 18:07

ik wil bij mijn Benz de olie en filter ook nog gaan verversen,maar welke soort olie moet er nu eigenlijk in? heb namelijk gehoord dat er geen volsyntethisch in mocht,maar er minerale olie in MOEST?

Is dit ook zo? en welke viscositeit?
is het nog verstandig om de viscositeit iets te veranderen? gezien het gebruik op gas,of het feit dat het een wat oudere auto is?
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Wimada » 09 feb 2011, 19:01

Gr. Wim.

Vroeger had ik een hekel aan trouwfeesten met familie, elke keer weer ooms en tantes die me
een por in mijn zij gaven en zeiden: nu jij he?
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Pointer16 » 09 feb 2011, 19:15

Groeten Bas
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Wimada » 09 feb 2011, 20:42

Er zijn 2 meningen op het forum:

1. Mineraal 15W40
2. Semi-synthetisch 10W40

Vol synthetisch wordt weinig gebruikt in onze auto en is waarschijnlijk ook beter om niet te gebruiken vanwege de toevoegingen die er in zitten.

Ik heb er minerale olie in van 15W40.[/quote]



Heb ik ook de Castrol GTX High Mileage kost wat maar dan heb je wat.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor jbremix » 09 feb 2011, 22:27

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Re: motor olie

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Wimada » 09 feb 2011, 22:59

http://www.valvoline.nl/media/Motor-Oil ... 10W-40.pdf


Nu wordt het voor mij ook moeilijk !

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Wallietax » 09 feb 2011, 23:06

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor GuusT » 09 feb 2011, 23:41

De getallen in 10W40 of 15W50 zeggen niets over de samenstelling maar geeft de viscositeit oftewel de dikte van de olie aan.
De meningen over half synth,of mineraal verschillen hier op het forum maar zaak is om uit te zoeken waar de auto altijd mee gereden heeft.
Volgens mij [ let wel .volgens mij ] zijn onze oude bakkies het best gediend van een minerale olie.
Destijds toen de auto's geleverd werden werd synthetisch nog niet zo veel toegepast en werden ook de 126 met minerale olie afgeleverd.

Volgens mij dus , eens ff op het net uitzoeken hoe dat zit.

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 09 feb 2011, 23:42

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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor GuusT » 09 feb 2011, 23:53

Olie is in allerlei diktes te koop. W10, W20, W30 5W15, 10W25 , noem jij maar een paar getallen dan is er wel een olie in die dikte.
De dubbele getallen wil zeggen de dikte bij warme of koude olie .
Niets over de samenstelling dus.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 09 feb 2011, 23:59

nee inderdaad,dat weet ik
maar ik meende dat me toen een keer eens verteld is,dat er 15w40 mineraal in moest,maar de meningen daarover verschillen nogal hier op het forum,vandaar dat ik het ook liever tien keer te vaak vraag,dan 1 keer te veel,de verkeerde erin gooi.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Vlim » 10 feb 2011, 02:34

Dat over die minerale olie is onzin.

De W126 is gewoon geschikt voor standaard halfsynthetische olie.

Waar het om draait is ook niet zo zeer of de olie synthetisch, mineraal of halfsynthetisch is. Het is altijd het beste (voor de motor) om de olie te blijven gebruiken die de motor altijd heeft gebruikt. Wisseling van soort kan ervoor zorgen dat jarenlange opbouw van aanslag ineens losgeweekt wordt, met verstoppingen en mogelijke motorschade als risico.

De SAE-code is belangrijk, en voor de W126 in ons klimaat is 10W40 gewoon de beste optie. Alles staat trouwens ook gewoon in het instructieboekje te lezen. Het gaat dus om de viscositeit en verder niks.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 10 feb 2011, 02:41

In mijn "Bedienungsanleitung" (voor 420SE/SEL/SEC, 500SE/SEL/SEC en 560SEL/SEC, serie 2 dus) staat een grafiekje over de olieolie.gifVerwacht je aanhoudende temperaturen van -15°C of lager, neem dan een 10W olie, anders kun je kiezen tussen 10W of 15W.
Als je 2 keer per jaar olie verversen geen probleem vindt, kun je 's zomers dikkere en 's winters dunnere olie gebruiken.

De handleiding spreekt verder niet over minerale dan wel (semi-)synthetische olie.
Er zijn wel een aantal "Blätter" vermeld: 226.0, 226.1, 227.0, 227.1
Helaas zijn die bladen niet (meer) opgenomen op http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoliste ... sort1.html
Sommige merken olie melden nog wel dat ze aan de specificaties van een van die bladen voldoen.

In de "Bedienungsanleitung" voor de 260SE, 300SEL/SEL en in die voor de 280S/SE/SEL en ook in die voor de 380SE/SEL/SEC, 500SE/SEL/SEC staat precies hetzelfde grafiekje.
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 10 feb 2011, 16:42

dus dan zou het eigenlijk vrij weinig uitmaken....10w40-10w50-15w40 en 15w50 zou er allemaal prima in kunnen!
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor Vlim » 10 feb 2011, 20:55

Juist :)
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Re: motor olie

Berichtdoor MTW-FM » 11 feb 2011, 12:34

oke,dat is duidelijk,en syntethysch of niet is ook niet relevant?
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