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Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor iwanvv » 13 jul 2016, 11:48

Ik moet de twee niveauregelings bollen vervangen (niet hpf), bij de achterwielen.
Even checken: is dat simpelweg een kwestie van bollen losschroeven en nieuwe weer monteren? Dan de speciale olie bijvullen en motor paar minuten laten draaien op zeg 3000 toeren om systeem te vullen?
Of zijn er speciale dingen die ik moet doen?
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 13 jul 2016, 12:50

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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor iwanvv » 13 jul 2016, 14:46

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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor iwanvv » 17 jul 2016, 18:52

Vandaag gewerkt aan vervangen aan de niveau regelings bollen. Paar vraagjes:
1. De plastic container zat helemaal vol met gitzwarte olie, dus het probleem is niet alleen de lekkende bollen maar waarschijnlijk ook de pomp aan het blok. De keerringen in de pomp lekken neem ik aan motorolie in het niveauregelings systeem. De vraag is welke ringen ik moet vervangen (1 of meerdere?). Ik vond 1 ring van ong. 7cm doorsnede (foto 1), die moet ik vervangen lijkt me. Maar ik zie ook een sleuf in de schacht waar het asje door heen gaat (zie foto 2). Moet daar ook niet een keerring in? Die zat er nl. niet in. Dat zou het lek kunnen verklaren, lijkt me.
2. Kan ik o-ringen kopen met juiste diameter en dikte, of moeten dit speciale ringen zijn? Heeft iemand misschien de onderdeel nummers?
3. Ik vond ook de restanten van een pakking (zie foto 3). Weet iemand daar het onderdeelnummer voor?
4. Tenslotte, als de pomp weer oke is en de bollen vervangen, hoe vul ik dan het systeem? Gewoon de container vullen met speciale olie, twee man op de rand van de kofferbak, motor op 3000 toeren en het systeem vult zichzelf (bij vullen olie natuurlijk). Of moet ik iets speciaals doen om de lucht uit het systeem te krijgen? Hoe gaat dat?
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 17 jul 2016, 19:44

De nummers (8, 11 en 14 in de tekening):
dichtingen.gif
Zo zien ze er uit (niet op dezelfde schaal):
dichtingen.jpg
Bij Mercedes kosten ze:
0049970147 15 à 20 euro
0109974345 5 à 10 euro
1142360080 ca. 1 euro
Misschien wil je ook de dichtringen (68 in de tekening, 2 stuks) vervangen, dat zijn N007603012405 ca. 1 euro per stuk.
Bij vervangen van de dichting 0049970147 moet de as op groeven gecontroleerd worden, bij beschadigingen moet de pomp vervangen worden.

In het werkplaatshandboek staat niets bijzonders over het ontluchten.
Het regelventiel heeft een ontluchtingsschroef, maar die wordt in de handleiding alleen bij het legen gebruikt.
Maar het kan vast geen kwaad om die na het vullen even open te draaien om te zien of er geen lucht uit komt.
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor iwanvv » 17 jul 2016, 21:22

Leeflang bedankt!
Nog even checken: dit zijn de juiste onderdelen voor mijn 560SEC 1986, toch? Weet niet of er evt. verschil is met andere types.
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 17 jul 2016, 21:31

Yep, is bij alle V8-en gelijk.
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor iwanvv » 18 jul 2016, 20:15

Onderdelen besteld bij Jonker Valkenswaard, morgen binnen. Mooi!
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor Douwe » 18 jul 2016, 22:23

Motor olie druk is lager dan systeem druk van de hpf .
Dus de theorie dat er motor olie in je hpf systeem is gelekt is theoretische onmogelijk.
Andersom gebeurt het wel dat de hpf olie in je blok verdwijnd
Controleer als je toch met de pomp bezichtig gaat ook of deze inwendig niet is uit gesleten .
Vooral de as lagering wil nog wel eens zover uit slijten dat hij niet meer pompt maar heen en weer gaat
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor petersuy » 28 dec 2020, 21:10

Iwanvv, hoe is het ermee afgelopen? Ik zou ook graag de bollen vervangen, hoe heb je het systeem dan bijgevuld/ontlucht?
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Re: Niveau regeling bollen vervangen

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 29 dec 2020, 02:39

Wel eerst de ontluchtings schroef op het hoogteregelventiel open draaien om de eventueel nog aanwezige druk af te laten.
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