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Berichtdoor Motorama » 18 apr 2021, 11:48

Hallo allemaal

ik heb sinds kort het volgende aan de hand met mijn 1989 560SEC:

als hij een tijdje (een tweetal uur of langer) heeft stilgestaan heeft hij moeite om te starten. Hij rijdt verder perfect en als ik hem stilleg en terug aanleg start hij weer goed.

Ik heb het gevoel dat de benzine terugloopt naar de tank en hij na enige tijd eerst weer de lijn moet volpompen eer hij aanneemt. Onlangs hebben ze wel gewerkt aan de injectoren en de elektronische drukregelaar is reeds vervangen zonder resultaat (deze lekte ook langs de gaatjes).

Is er nergens aan de pomp een klep of dergelijke die moet voorkomen dat de leiding leegloopt?
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Motorama » 18 apr 2021, 13:46

zorgt die ervoor dat de leiding op druk blijft als de motor niet draait??
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 18 apr 2021, 13:54

Ja, samen met de terugslagventielen aan de benzinepompen.
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Motorama » 18 apr 2021, 14:11

ventiel of ventielen?
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Motorama » 18 apr 2021, 14:19

en bij een slechte accumulator zou hij na 5 min toch ook al slecht moeten starten?
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Berichtdoor Leeflang » 18 apr 2021, 15:00

Volgens de onderdelencatalogus zitren er twee terugslagventielen in, dus bij beide pompen eentje.
Hoe snel de druk verloren gaat is afhankelijk van hoe groot het lek is.
Accumulator kun je testen door de lekleiding los te maken en te kijken of hij daar continu lekt als de pompen draaien.
De terugslagventielen kun je denk ik alleen testen na demontage.
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Berichtdoor Motorama » 18 apr 2021, 22:35

De accumulator lekt niet .
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Vlim » 19 apr 2021, 00:36

Kan zijn dat de injectoren niet fris meer zijn en nadruppelen. Geeft soortgelijke symptomen:normale koudstart en moeilijke start na tijdje stilstaan.
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Motorama » 21 apr 2021, 09:36

Warm of koud staat er los van maar ze hebben wel pas de injectoren eruit gehaald en. Getest en 2 vervangen. Wat is de functie van die 2 terugslagventielen
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Motorama » 25 apr 2021, 08:55

Neen heb je daar nummers van
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Iwema LPG » 11 mei 2021, 14:20

Inwendige lek K-Jetronic.
Makkelijk te herstellen.
Zie: werkplaatshandboek
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 11 mei 2021, 16:14

Beste Hugo,

Dit forum is bedoelt om elkaar te helpen.
Een verwijzing naar het werkplaatshandboek, zonder enige toelichting, helpt de topicstarter geen milimeter vooruit, en kun je dus net zo goed achterwege laten.
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor Iwema LPG » 11 mei 2021, 16:51

Hi Richard,

Ik verwijs meestal niet naar het werkplaatshandboek.
In dit geval moet je het werkplaatshandboek er bij nemen omdat daar in staat hoeveel druppels lek er mag zijn bij een bepaalde tijd voor de betreffende motor.
Daar staat ook welke slang je los moet maken om te kunnen meten.

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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor RD500SEC » 11 mei 2021, 17:30

Bovenstaande kun je beschrijven zodat de topicstarter dit kan uitvoeren, daar is hij mee geholpen.
Of is het de bedoeling dat de topicstarter bij jou langs komt, zodat je wat kunt verdienen?
Aan de vage omschrijving te lezen krijg ik dat idee namelijk.

Ik neem aan dat ook de topicstarter de druppels kan tellen en dat hij een klokje heeft waar hij de tijd mee in de gaten kan houden...
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Re: slecht starten

Berichtdoor KlaasCA » 12 mei 2021, 13:19

Nu ben ik ook wel benieuwd hoe je kan checken of je met een intern lekkende KE-Jetronic zit. Ik heb een stopwatch op mijn telefoon en kan tellen.
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