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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 08 sep 2021, 10:07

Bedankt Hans,

Dat ga ik dan eens even proberen.

Ik ga er even van uit dat dit het bijbehorende plaatje is:

post189716.html?hilit=benzinerelais#p189716

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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 08 sep 2021, 10:30

Niet helemaal, op dat plaatje is 87 (pin 7) verbonden met 15 (pin 9) i.p.v. 30 (pin 8).
De draad naar pin 15 is echter veel dunner dan die van 87 en 30, mogelijk is die te dun voor de stroom die de benzinepompen nodig hebben.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 08 sep 2021, 11:31

Ah, goed om te weten Leeflang. Ik ga dan de juiste verbinding leggen.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 08 sep 2021, 15:58

Update: Het verbinden van de pins heeft helaas het probleem niet opgelost. Wel bedacht ik me dat ik eerder bij het repareren van het gaspedaalmechaniek had gemerkt dat het bewegen van de kabel die loopt van verdeler naar ontstekingsmodule ik het toerental kon veranderen en de motor kon laten afslaan. Lijkt mij niet de bedoeling. De kabel liep erg dicht bij het blok (waarschijnlijk tegen het blok) en wordt dan behoorlijk heet. Heb nu deze kabel omgeleid zover mogelijk van het blok vandaan. Probleem lijkt opgelost maar kan niet verklaren waarom het warm worden van deze kabel de problemen van afslaan kan veroorzaken.

Wordt vervolgd na meer testritjes.

P.S. nadeel van het opschuren van de contactpuntjes en rotor is dat de motor super smooth loopt en nu lijkt te zijn afgeslagen terwijl die nog netjes loopt. Elluk nadeel enzo. :lol:
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor Vlim » 08 sep 2021, 18:34

Klinkt als een inwendige kabelbreuk.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor Leeflang » 08 sep 2021, 18:46

Daar lijkt het inderdaad op en naar de foto "Aansluiting aan huis" bekijkend, zou de breuk daar wel eens dichtbij kunnen zijn.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 08 sep 2021, 20:59

Is die kabel te vervangen volgens jullie? Lijkt mij nogal vastgebakken aan het huis van de verdeler.

Edit: Ik zie dat Leeflang eerder een link naar die kabel heeft gegeven voor iemand die ook zo'n beschadiging had:

motor-stottert-t20724.html#p200942

Link naar kabel:

https://www.ebay.nl/sch/i.html?_from=R4 ... =2&_sop=15

Hans heeft toen de boel weer draaiend gekregen maar kan niet goed zien of die kabel toen is vervangen door een tweedehands exemplaar maar dat lijkt er wel op. Via ebay bestellen gaat wat tijd kosten en ik zou denken dat zo'n kabel ook in NL te vinden is?
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 08 sep 2021, 21:50

Ga ik proberen, Hans, opnieuw bedankt. Die stekker verbinding is niet helemaal lekker meer, zie eerdere foto. Hopelijk hiermee de oorzaak gevonden, zou top zijn.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 09 sep 2021, 09:26

Super, ik stuur je een PB om het af te ronden.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor RudderDuck » 18 sep 2021, 21:12

Update: Kabel van verdeelhuis naar onstekingsmodule vervangen. Helaas is het probleem nog niet verholpen. Ik kan de motor nog steeds doen afslaan of slecht laten lopen door deze kabel te bewegen. Maar wanneer ik de stekker op onstekingsmodule ingedrukt hou en dan de kabel beweeg blijft de boel draaien.

Mijn vermoeden is dus dat de verbinding van de kabel op de module niet helemaal lekker is. Volgende stap zou zijn om de onstekingsmodule te vervangen. Ik kan bij afslaan/onregelmatig lopen het probleem verhelpen door die stekker even heen en weer te bewegen, dan loopt de motor weer goed. Het lijkt nog steeds te gebeuren bij opgewarmde motor.
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Re: Stilvallen bij stationair toerental met warme motor

Berichtdoor Roan » 21 dec 2021, 22:23

Beste forumleden , wil mij bedanken voor deze info die voor mij inderdaad de oplossing was. Bedankt en alvast fijne en gezonde feestdagen toegewenst.
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