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startmotor

Berichtdoor Robby » 16 apr 2012, 14:00

Beste Leden,
De startmotor van de 420SE 8cyl. slaat niet altijd in, nu heb ik nog een startmotor van een 300SE 6cyl. liggen. Kan ik deze omruilen? Is dit dezelfde startmotor?

M.vr.Gr..

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Berichtdoor Neerven » 16 apr 2012, 14:05

Moet volgens mij kunnen.
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Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 16 apr 2012, 15:56

8 cil 004 151 78 01

6 cil 004 151 70 01

Andere nummers , geen verwijzing, dus verschillend
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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Robby » 16 apr 2012, 16:51

bedankt,
Jammer!
Groet
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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Douwe » 16 apr 2012, 17:58

even startmotor demonteren en het relais los halen schoonmaken en smeren en weer terug plaasten
ook even de bendix as(dat is het tandwiel wat naar voren schiet)even schoonmaken en smeren
hele grote kans dat je daarna geen problemen meer hebt
tenzij hij echt versleten is ;)
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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor ElGriffo » 16 apr 2012, 20:27

Als je hem eraf krijgt :P Dan kun je hem inderdaad (niet echt moeilijk) redelijk uit elkaar halen
wellicht helpt het

Ik heb van de 560 nog wel een gebruikte die tot nu toe het prima gedaan heeft

grt

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Berichtdoor Robby » 22 apr 2012, 20:50

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Berichtdoor Leeflang » 22 apr 2012, 22:50

Yep, die klos bovenop:startmotor.jpg(plaatje van http://www.onderdelendirect.nl/Mercedes ... cx4677517s)

Een paar filmpjes over de werking van de startmotor.
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Berichtdoor Robby » 23 apr 2012, 07:14

Thanks,

Eens kijken of dat helpt!

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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Joyrider » 23 apr 2012, 14:17

Wil je bedrijfszekerheid, zonder startmotor kom je met een automaat niet weg, laat de startmotor
dan door een vakman netjes in orde maken.
Auto elektriciteit is een echt vak. Met een beetje rommelen aan een defecte startmotor doet ie het
misschien weer even.
Tenzij er belangrijke onderdelen defect zijn heb je voor 60-80 euro weer een frisse startmotor.
Een goede gebruikte is een mooi alternatief.


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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Robby » 23 apr 2012, 20:01

Beste Paul,
Ben nieuwsgierig,
Waar haal ik een betrouwbare goede frisse startmotor voor 60 euro?

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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Joyrider » 23 apr 2012, 22:24

Voor jouw geen goed adres, te ver weg, ik breng mijn starters en dynamo's naar Relonstar in Leerdam.

Dit soort kleine gespecialiseerde bedrijven vind je met wat zoeken gelukkig nog in heel Nederland.
Ik neem aan dat er in jouw omgeving ook wel een te vinden is.

Ik ga liever naar de vakman dan dat ik bij een grossier een mooie gele of blauwe doos krijg met een ruil unit
die in verweggistan is opgelapt.
De kleine vakman is vaak nog goedkoper dan die unit in doos.


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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Peter 500SEC » 23 apr 2012, 23:33

Heb je mijn verhaal ook gelezen ?
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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Douwe » 24 apr 2012, 18:31

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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Douwe » 25 apr 2012, 19:38

dan vraag je je zelf wel af wanneer dit bedrijf geld gaat verdienen
want je kan zelf kijken waar ik mijn info weg heb gehaald en wat de prijsen zijn
tevens heb ik toch wel enkel tientallen jaren ervaring als monteur/chef werkplaats van een wagen park van meer dan 40 gemotoriseerde voertuigen om het zo maar even te omschrijfen
dus een startmotor is mij niet onbekent
heb in de loop der jaren zelfstandig meer malen startmotors samen gevoegd omdat voor oltimer vrachtwagens en dergelijke niet alles meer voorradig is
en revisies soms tijden op liepen tot over de honderden euros
maar ik vermoed dan dat het revisie bedrijf ferwerda wat al van ouds her startmotoren en dynamos brandstof pompen en dergelijke repareerd niet zo goed weet waar ze mee bezig waren ;)
want de rekeningen voor de startmotoren die ik in al die jaren heb laten reviseren waren toch vaker boven de 100 euro dan er onder :D :D :D :D :D :D
maar ja wat weet ik ervan ik heb gelukkig niet zoveel ervaring :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
o ja ben de laatste jaren amtenaar en geen monteur meer meschien is het sinds die tijd anders geworden :D :D :D :D
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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Robby » 25 apr 2012, 19:44

Ik ben in ieder geval blij met de tip om hem zelf in orde te maken, spaart mij wat geld.

Als hij kapot is, kan ik nog altijd een andere aanschaffen.

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Berichtdoor Douwe » 25 apr 2012, 19:55

kijk dat bedoel ik
eerst zelf kijken hoe hij er aan toe is
vaak kan je dan al wel zien of een revisie wel of niet echt nodig is
ik heb 10 tallen op deze manier nog jaren in gebruik gehad
en dit ging over wagens die meer malen per dag gestart werden
en niet over zon lullig 380 V8 motortje maar over 350 pk diesel motoren in vracht wagens
dus wat ik daar mee uit gespaart heb aan onnodige revisie kosten ik wou wel dat ik dat nu op mijn bank rekening had :D :D :D :D
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Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Peter 500SEC » 25 apr 2012, 21:50

Ook ik had een tijdje geleden problemen met de startmotor.

Ik heb de mijne uitgebouwd en naar een bedrijf in Didam gebracht, ik kreeg aldaar een andere mee en het koste nog geen 100,00 €

Zeer zeker het kop gedeelte zag er als nieuw uit.

Of het relais ook vervangen was, kan ik niet beoordelen
Peter 500SEC
 


Re: startmotor

Berichtdoor Joyrider » 25 apr 2012, 23:21

De delen die het meeste aan slijtage onderhevig zijn:
Lagerbussen, koolborstels en de collector.
Het relais en de bendix gaan veel langer mee en worden alleen vervangen wanneer ze defect zijn.

Maak je geen zorgen over de verdiensten van Relonstar, dat zit wel goed.
Ik loop ook al een tijdje mee en mag zeggen dat ik iets van auto's begrijp.
Goed repareren is het zoeken naar een goede balans tussen kosten en risico op nieuwe storingen.
De dealer aanpak is laf, dealers vervangen alles wat in de buurt van de storing zit.
Kost een pak geld maar is niet noodzakelijk beter.


Paul
Joyrider
 

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